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10 Things About CC Gun Owners

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:21 am
by sooeey2u
I don't know the author to give credit to but I agree with most of his thinking here. What are your thoughts?
I caught this post over at democraticunderground.com. In the interests of “fair use,” I’m excerpting it here. Please click over to the site for the full text. My one comment: I’m aware that the pro-concealed carry crowd are locked in a battle with gun control advocates, who see them as inherently dangerous. They are. They have a gun. Guns are dangerous. That makes citizens carrying a concealed firearm dangerous. Reckless? In the main, no. But to suggest that all concealed carry holders are mild-mannered Clark Kents who always observe gun safety, use common sense and exercise restraint is wildly disingenuous. Concealed carry is a trade-off: personal security vs. societal risk. And the societal bonus of having someone armed around if someone else who’s armed goes postal.

1. We don’t carry firearms so that we can ignore other basics of personal safety. We don’t walk down dark alleys. We lock our cars. We don’t get intoxicated in public or hang out around people who do . . . A gun is our last resort, not our first.

2. We don’t think we are cops, spies, or superheros. We aren’t hoping that somebody tries to rob the convenience store while we are there so we can shoot a criminal . . .We don’t believe our guns give us any authority over our fellow citizens. . . . Except for extraordinary circumstances your business is your business, don’t expect us to help you out of situations you could have avoided.

3. We are LESS likely, not more likely, to be involved in fights or “rage” incidents than the general public. We recognize, better than many unarmed citizens, that we are responsible for our actions . . . We know that loss of temper, getting into fights or angrily confronting someone after a traffic incident could easily escalate into a dangerous situation . . . We don’t pull our guns to settle arguments or to attempt to threaten people into doing what we want.

4. We are responsible gun owners. We secure our firearms so that children and other unauthorized people cannot access them.

5. Guns are not unsafe or unpredictable. There is no reason to be afraid of a gun simply lying on a table or in a holster. It is not going to discharge on its own.

6. We do not believe in the concept of “accidental discharges”. There are no accidental discharges only negligent discharges or intentional discharges. We take responsibility for our actions and have learned how to safely handle firearms . . . Our recognition of our responsibility and familiarity with firearms makes us among the safest firearms owners in America.

7. Permit holders do their best to keep our concealed weapons exactly that: concealed. We are very cognizant that concerns about terrorism and crime are in the forefront of the minds of most citizens. We also realize that our society does much to condition our fellow citizens to have sometimes irrational fears about firearms. We would encourage citizens who do happen to spot someone carrying a firearm to use good judgment and clear thinking if they feel to need to take action . . . Comments like “there’s a guy running around in the store with a gun” or even simply “I saw a man with a gun in the store” could possibly cause a misunderstanding as to the true nature of the incident.

8. The fact that we carry a firearm to any given place does not mean that we believe that place to be inherently unsafe. If we believe a place to be unsafe, most of us would avoid that place all together if possible. However, we recognize that trouble could occur at any place and at any time. Criminals do not observe “gun free zones”.

9. Concealed weapon permit holders are an asset to the public in times of trouble. The fact that most permit holders have the good judgment to stay out of situations better handled by a 911 call or by simply being a careful and vigilant witness does not mean that we would fail to act in situations where the use of deadly force is appropriate to save lives. Review of high profile public shooting incidents shows that when killers are confronted by armed resistance they tend to either break off the attack and flee or choose to end their own life. Lives are saved when resistance engages a violent criminal. Lives are lost when the criminal can do as he pleases.

10. The fact that criminals know that some of the population may be armed at any given time helps to deter violence against all citizens. Permit holders don’t believe that every person should necessarily be armed . . . Help by not supporting laws that require citizens to be unarmed victims.

Re: 10 Things About CC Gun Owners

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:03 am
by sawdust
Two key words in the text: "dangerous" and "reckless".

To me, those words are significant and significantly different. I would guess that the public at large would subconsciously equate those words when the the topic concerns "guns". The differences in their meaning and concept is a point that needs to be established in all venues.

Dangerous
Having the abilitiy to inflict harm

Reckless
Heedless or careless. Headstrong; rash. Indifferent to or disregardful of consequences

A person who has a CHL can be "dangerous" to anyone who wishes (i.e. actively exhibiting intent) to do great physical harm to him or others. However, that does not make the CHL'er "reckless". The vetting process of obtaining a CHL, the required initial training, and the (hoped-for) on-going training and learning helps reduce or remove the the recklessness of responding to possibly dire threats. :tiphat:

Re: 10 Things About CC Gun Owners

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:14 pm
by sooeey2u
:iagree:

Re: 10 Things About CC Gun Owners

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:28 pm
by stroo
"Concealed carry is a trade-off: personal security vs. societal risk."
Nope. With concealed carry you get both increased personal safety and reduced societal risk.

Re: 10 Things About CC Gun Owners

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:33 pm
by Zoomie
:iagree:

Re: 10 Things About CC Gun Owners

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:33 pm
by Randooly
:patriot:

Re: 10 Things About CC Gun Owners

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:18 pm
by fickman
stroo wrote:"Concealed carry is a trade-off: personal security vs. societal risk."
Nope. With concealed carry you get both increased personal safety and reduced societal risk.
My only nitpick as well. . . exactly what I planned to say.

Other than that, well stated! Unfortunately, it's unlikely to convert even a mild anti.

Re: 10 Things About CC Gun Owners

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:31 pm
by SQLGeek
I can only imagine what those on the DU are saying about this. I think I'll just leave it to my imagination.