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How is the test actually done?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:51 pm
by YellowTJ
http://www.krtraining.com/KRTraining/Te" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... Ltest.html
That will take you to what I'm looking at. Here is an example but I need to know what it means...
3 yards, 20 rounds
1 shot, 2 seconds, 5 times
2 shots, 3 seconds, 5 times
5 shots, 10 seconds, 1 time
Ok so in verbal commands tell me what that means... is it lower then raise to shoot one shot every 2 seconds 5 times then lower, OR is it from lower take aim shoot one shot in 2 secs then lower then raise shoot one in 2 seconds, then do that out to 5xs.
then raise aim 2 shots in 3 seconds lower 2 in 3 seconds lower and so on, then the final line is it raise take 5 shots in 10 seconds then lower?
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:05 pm
by barres
Your instructor can chose to do it in any order so long as the overall requirements of the law are met. If everyone is shooting semi-auto's with capacities of at least 10 rounds, then he might set the strings of fire up for loading ten rounds at a time. If there are folks shooting wheelies or 1911's or such that have smaller capacities, he may alter the strings of fire to accommodate those handguns. Only your instructor knows for sure how your instructor will run your class.
Edited to add: Most instructors have the students start from the low ready position. I have seen some that have the students start with the handgun on-target. Again, that is not statutorily defined, so it is up to the discretion of your instructor.
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:10 pm
by biggyin
I would not worry about the shooting test too much, it's pretty easy. My instructor done it in 5 shot strings, 20 shots from 3 yards, 20 from 7 yards and 10 from 15 yards. The time does not sound like much but it is plenty for aimed shots. All shot from the low ready position.
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:41 pm
by SIGnage
In my class it was start from lower ready, then raise and fire one shot in 2 seconds then back to lower ready five times.
Then from lower ready, raise and shoot 2 shots in 3 seconds, then back to lower ready 5 times and so on and so on.
It is a lot more time than you think. You shouldn't have any problems, the target is pretty much full sized silhouett, and the 5 point area is pretty much the bulk of center mass. Most people qualify before they ever back up to the 15 yard line.
My only dislike was getting pummeled in the face 50 times with ejected brass from the students weapon standing to my left.
The instructor told us to wear collared shirts, I first thought it was for the pictures. When we went to the range, he recommended we button up our collars. My collar was a tad tight buttoned, so I opted not to. After qualification, I was picking brass out from inside my shirt and even out of my shirt pocket. Wear Eye protection as well.
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Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:46 pm
by NcongruNt
YellowTJ wrote:http://www.krtraining.com/KRTraining/Te ... Ltest.html
That will take you to what I'm looking at. Here is an example but I need to know what it means...
3 yards, 20 rounds
1 shot, 2 seconds, 5 times
2 shots, 3 seconds, 5 times
5 shots, 10 seconds, 1 time
Ok so in verbal commands tell me what that means... is it lower then raise to shoot one shot every 2 seconds 5 times then lower, OR is it from lower take aim shoot one shot in 2 secs then lower then raise shoot one in 2 seconds, then do that out to 5xs.
then raise aim 2 shots in 3 seconds lower 2 in 3 seconds lower and so on, then the final line is it raise take 5 shots in 10 seconds then lower?
Yeah, don't sweat it. The test is simple, and the instructor will talk you all the way through it. I took the class from them, and I'll go into specifics for this class. The test is easy.
He has a set of pneumatic turning targets up. His assistant (his daughter for our class) turns the targets remotely while he gives orders to proceed and cease firing. This instructor only has you load the number of rounds required for that specific string of fire, IIRC. Bringing several mags will simplify the process - 3 should be sufficient. Don't load your mags beforehand or you'll just have to unload them again. The tests are done in two sets, one for half of the class, and one for the other. You pair up, and your partner loads your mags for you while you shoot. Shooting is done starting from low ready. The required intervals give you plenty of time between shots, so just shoot at a comfortable pace. No one in my class had any trouble keeping up.
If you want to practice beforehand, just shoot strings of 1, 2, and 5 shots at the different distances. Don't worry about memorizing any order - it won't help.
It will be easier than you think. Really, it's just a formality. Listen in class. I think pretty much everyone in my class got a 100% on the written test. I think we had burgers for lunch that day.
Enjoy your class! Then, on to the wait for the plastic to arrive.
Also, welcome to the forum!
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Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:51 pm
by YellowTJ
Thanks guys for the help. I'm going to the range tonight and will work on the shooting once more. I have my class Friday!
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:17 pm
by biggyin
Good luck and nearly welcome to the ranks!
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:33 pm
by CHLSteve
There were people in my class who had NEVER fired a gun before, and had to be shown how to use their gun. They passed the test no sweat.
(*not sure that I'm entirely comfortable with this fact, just stating what happened)
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:53 am
by YellowTJ
Yeah I'd heard that from a co-worker, that some of the people there had never really shot before and still passed. Which is all well and good for me not putting to much worry about this test in the morning, your right it dose nothing for my general worry about people who now carry and have only shot those 50 rounds.
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:44 pm
by YellowTJ
For anyone who wants to know: I went to TX Handgun Academy this past Friday and all your were right... very easy. The 1st part of the class was with about 15 people. All but 4 of use were getting renewals done. We went over some recent legal changes, took pictures and finger prints, then they went for their test and we went to lunch. We came back to a how to shoot video then went to do the shooting test. We then sat around mostly shooting the poop about this that or another thing. Finally we took the written test which was also easy and then ... we were out there. Really the class felt like come stay for 10hrs pay us and you will pass. So while I think they could have had far less down time the experience was a positive one. My instructor said they were taking about 9-10 weeks. I'll mail my packet in the morning so we'll see.
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:58 pm
by longhorn_92
YellowTJ wrote:For anyone who wants to know: I went to TX Handgun Academy this past Friday and all your were right... very easy. The 1st part of the class was with about 15 people. All but 4 of use were getting renewals done. We went over some recent legal changes, took pictures and finger prints, then they went for their test and we went to lunch. We came back to a how to shoot video then went to do the shooting test. We then sat around mostly shooting the poop about this that or another thing. Finally we took the written test which was also easy and then ... we were out there. Really the class felt like come stay for 10hrs pay us and you will pass. So while I think they could have had far less down time the experience was a positive one. My instructor said they were taking about 9-10 weeks. I'll mail my packet in the morning so we'll see.
Congratulations! Now the hard part comes.....waiting!
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Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:03 pm
by YellowTJ
I agree!
Re: How is the test actually done?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:15 pm
by nils
Good luck, and don't stress...it really isn't that difficult if you have some experience...you'll be fine.
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