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This can not be real. They want your CHL and DL numbers?
Hmm, seems a little fishy to me. My CHL and DL is between me and the state.
Also I like how the reply email address is an aol account.
Geez....


Body of the email I recieved this morning from aert@tsra.com


Texas State Rifle Association Political Action Committee

Dear TSRA Members:

TSRA has been hearing complaints from members around Texas concerning late concealed carry licenses and renewals. This alert is to gather information about recent or past delays.

According to Texas law (see below) the initial license can take up to 60 days to be issued by DPS,
the renewal can take up to 45 days.

Government Code 411.177 Issuance or Denial of License. (b) The department shall, not later than the 60th
day after the date of the receipt by the director's designee of the completed application materials: (1)
issue the license.

Government Code 411.185 Renewal (c) The department shall renew the license of a license holder who meets all the eligibility requirements and submits all the renewal materials. Not later than the 45th day after receipt of the renewal materials, the department shall issue the renewal or notify the license holder in writing that the renewal application was denied.

TSRA is asking members to share delays they've experienced when appying for or renewing
their Concealed Carry License; recent or past. Please return the completed form below to Alice Tripp,
Legislative Director, TSRA. agtripp@aol.com

The information below is needed immediately. Thanks for participating

New or Renewal:
Full Name on Application:
Your CHL Number:
Your Texas Drivers License Number:
Your Telephone Number:
Date Completed Application Was Received by DPS:
Date You Received Your License:
Total Number of Days in Processing:
Did You Receive a Letter From DPS Regarding the Delay:
Did You Cause Any of the Delay in Processing:
IF DPS Gave You A Verbal Explanation for the Delay in Processing (or an Excuse) Please Explain:
Please cut and past the form above into an email, answer the questions, and
send the email toAlice Tripp, Legislative Director of TSRA agtripp@aol.com

Charles Cotton asked for the same information on this forum:
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... =7&t=15085

- Jim

This looks like the information Charles was requesting in http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 91&start=0

Sounds like the TSRA is trying to get all of their members (not just those on this forum) to provide their time lines so they can compile a list and get the DPS to meet the letter of the law on issuance times.

I haven't received anything. It is probably legitimate, however I am not sure who is on the legislative committee as I can't find it on their website. I would hold off until I can verify that Ms. Tripp is actually asking for these and the email address is valid.

EDIT: Jim beat me to it. I was a little more long winded!

Haven't received the email but if I do, I will not be providing the requested information.

I simply don't see the need for such detail and the AOL address bothers me. Must be a better way!

I posted the link to this thread to the aol person.
I understand their concern but it seems a little fishy.

Maybe they should have an approval committe review emails before sending them out.

Just like the one I got from them a few months ago about how it was illegal to have a firearms at the State Fair.
Sorry but last year I brought mine and showed my CHL ID card and the security guy waved me by with a smile and actually thanked me. Thought that was totally cool.

Maybe they should have a couple of you guys/gals helping them out. Board members here always seem to be very knowledgeable and professional with everything about CHL.

I am not attacking TSRA in anyway and I support TSRA every year, just more of a concern about personnel information.

Oh well, hope everybody has a great day !!!

I know the email address to be a valid address for Alice Tripp, as we have emailed back and forth before. I sent her an email this morning with the concerns, and here is her reply:

Dear Linda.

TSRA has always had server problems, not the case with AOL. I've opened and saved about 30 answers so far. Thanks for your concern. I'm getting the response I need.


In a message dated 4/11/2008 8:25:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, llwatson@yahoo.com writes:
Alice,

I am a little concerned that you have asked for personal info, driver's license, CHL number, full name, and request this be sent to an AOL email address. I doubt you will get many responses, as spamming for personal info is so prevalent now.

Do you not have an email address at TSRA?

llwatson wrote:I know the email address to be a valid address for Alice Tripp, as we have emailed back and forth before. I sent her an email this morning with the concerns, and here is her reply:

Dear Linda.

TSRA has always had server problems, not the case with AOL. I've opened and saved about 30 answers so far. Thanks for your concern. I'm getting the response I need.


In a message dated 4/11/2008 8:25:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, llwatson@yahoo.com writes:
Alice,

I am a little concerned that you have asked for personal info, driver's license, CHL number, full name, and request this be sent to an AOL email address. I doubt you will get many responses, as spamming for personal info is so prevalent now.

Do you not have an email address at TSRA?

If they tend to have server problems, you might suggest that they invest in a better host for their web presence/services.

I also got the email and I don't question its authenticy.

But Ms. Tripps' response to llwatson does concern me. She ignores the expressed concerns and seems to say 'there are enough fools replying to give us the data.'

She is totally ignoring that the request showed no concern for the privacy of anyone who responded.

The email request is legitimate and Alice explained that the TSRA server is giving a problem. That problem is being dealt with, but a host change, if that is coming, will not be complete before the meeting next week.

Alice isn't ignoring anyone's concerns. If you don't want to give your information, then don't. I only received three responses to my request and I don't think anyone was worried about the authenticity of my request. We're trying to do something about the delays and that takes evidence.

Chas.

I don't think I'll be sending in my personal info. Sounds like a mailing list update to me.

I don't doubt they may be trying to help...but they can help EVERYONE in the queue, not just the one providing info. I know I know, specific cases and all, but the DPS knows how long it's been taking.

Good Luck,
Rob

rob02262008 wrote:I don't think I'll be sending in my personal info. Sounds like a mailing list update to me.

I think your completely wrong here. The TSRA doesn't need to update a mailing list. Their mailing consists of members and folks who have requested their email notices.

They are completely, 100% above board.

I just think that they didn't consider that people sending sentitive information across the internet with no security measures isn't a good idea.

I agree, sometimes I send stuff over the Internet and think, geez was that safe.

Honest mistake and not her fault at all.

She is probably a very nice and trusting person, sometimes we all foget their are bad guys out there waiting to steal any kind of information and sell it.
Now if they had a web site up to up information that would be a great idea, but no matter what, I am keeping my numbers to myself.

Everybody have a great weekend.

Mike1951 wrote:

rob02262008 wrote:I don't think I'll be sending in my personal info. Sounds like a mailing list update to me.

I think your completely wrong here. The TSRA doesn't need to update a mailing list. Their mailing consists of members and folks who have requested their email notices.

They are completely, 100% above board.

I just think that they didn't consider that people sending sentitive information across the internet with no security measures isn't a good idea.

I'm so used to using Alice's AOL email address, I never gave it a thought that it might look strange to people who were not used to seeing it. I think I'll offer her an email address at TexasShooting.com or TexasCHLforum.com. Af for the TSRA server, we all hope that's taken care of soon.

Chas.

rob02262008 wrote:I don't think I'll be sending in my personal info. Sounds like a mailing list update to me.

I don't doubt they may be trying to help...but they can help EVERYONE in the queue, not just the one providing info. I know I know, specific cases and all, but the DPS knows how long it's been taking.

Good Luck,
Rob

By all means, don't send anything if you are uncomfortable. However, I'm personally involved in this effort and it has nothing to do with updating an email list. There is a very important meeting with DPS about delays and it's necessary to be able to point to specific applications that are late. Merely saying there is a problem without any proof just doesn't work. The information provided will not be used to help only those people; it's proof that the problem actually exists.

Chas.