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Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:26 am
by NcongruNt
Another reason to always carry, even if you're just walking out to your car...

This guy's last stop was 2 blocks from my apartment. It very well could have been me at gunpoint had this robber/carjacker picked a different apartment complex

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/n ... bbery.html
Man charged in series of Dec. 29 robberies
Police say suspect approached victims and asked if they wanted to buy a gun.
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By Tony Plohetski
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Friday, January 04, 2008

Austin police have charged a man in a series of robberies in which investigators said he confronted victims outside their cars and asked whether they wanted to buy a gun before demanding money.

Brandon Christopher Rogers, 21, faces charges of robbery by threat and aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon.

Police said the incidents happened Dec. 29.

According to arrest affidavits, Rogers approached Sunilkumar Patel outside his house on West Avenue near downtown Austin as Patel was putting his child in his car. Rogers asked Patel if he wanted to buy a gun, but Rogers became angry when Patel declined.

Rogers then told Patel to give him his wallet, watch or cell phone, the affidavit said. Rogers then drove off in Patel's car.

Five minutes later, Rogers confronted a second man as he was unloading his car outside his house. He asked Winston Pfiester if he wanted to buy a gun and demanded Pfiester's wallet when he declined.

Rogers then demanded to enter the man's house and took a leather jacket and an Apple iPhone, an affidavit said.

Rogers then ran from the house, according to the affidavit.

Police said Rogers struck a final time several hours later in the parking lot of a North Austin Home Depot.

Police said Mark Berryhill, an employee at the store, was sitting in a 2007 Kia taking a break when Rogers asked him if he wanted to buy a gun. Berryhill ran inside the store and alerted co-workers about what happened.

Investigators said Rogers stole the Kia, which was then found by officers in a police helicopter several hours later near North Lamar and North Loop boulevards.

Police said Rogers demanded a car of someone near the intersection and left the Kia behind.

He was arrested a short time later.

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:05 am
by dukalmighty
I know kias are small i didn't know they would fit inside a police helicopter,what is wrong with these people this could of been avoided if they would of just bought the gun :smash:

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:16 am
by Glock 23
someone should have bought the gun and shot him with it.

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:37 am
by KBCraig
dukalmighty wrote:I know kias are small i didn't know they would fit inside a police helicopter
Maybe it was a panda with a pistol! :cool:

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:16 am
by dukalmighty
KBCraig wrote:
dukalmighty wrote:I know kias are small i didn't know they would fit inside a police helicopter
Maybe it was a panda with a pistol! :cool:
Okay the panda thing is funny :lol: seriously tho i carry 24-7 literally except in the shower but i am thinking about getting a shower rig like somebody else has
I'm not phsychic maybe phsychotic but when i sleep i have a fiream within reach and am gonna buy a home defense shotgun with one of those bed racks im gonna make and keep loaded with either 4 or 00 buckshot for self defense

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:55 am
by DoubleJ
maybe TxI will post that pick of the Glock-in-a-bag Shower Rig again!!
it's funny, but you know you've thought about it, too!

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:16 pm
by Tactical_Texan_CHL
Hmm. If the Glock is dirty, you just need to open the bag, squirt a little shampoo in there and give it a good shake. This could work, it is a Glock after all.....

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:20 pm
by TX Rancher
Personally, I find that a Glock in a zip-lock bag can be hard to get into if you have soap on your hands, so I just use a nylon belt with a Kydex holster and wear my Glock 23 and two extra mags. My BUG is a G26 in a Kydex ankle holster.

I also wear Gen 3 night vision goggles when in the shower. That way I can keep the lights off and any BG that enters the bathroom will be at a disadvantage since I can see, but he can’t…of course that’s assuming he can get past the 4 Rottweiler’s that are sitting outside the bathroom door and the automatic tear gas dispenser attached to the door as a bobby trap. You can never be too prepared…

When I go to bed at night, I don’t keep a pistol on the stand beside the bed…that would be way to slow to bring into play, and if the BG got past the dogs, the motion sensor, and the trip wired flares he could pick up the weapon and use it on me.

Instead, I have sown Velcro to a glove and glued the mating portion to a 1911 with an extended mag (may need the extra rounds you know!). That way I always have a weapon in my hands…how’s that for minimizing response time! :hurry:

I’m sure the more tactical minded on the forum are thinking “TX Rancher, you seem to be a level headed tactical minded individual…why would you settle for a low capacity weapon????�. Well, primarily the decision was driven by safety concerns. You see the 1911 has a manual safety, so I don’t shoot myself by accident. ;-)

I know the deeper thinkers in the group are wondering “But what about if you are attacked at night by a group of Ninjas…10 rounds seems a little lite, even if they are 45acp�. Good question since that’s a real possibility in today’s world.

I feel ok since the 1911 will only be used to fight my way to the belt fed M-60 which I keep in a biometric access safe in the corner of the bedroom. Ah, I can hear the questions “But won’t it take time to open the safe? Won’t the Ninjas get you in that time?�. Probably not, after all, that’s what the smoke grenades and flash-bangs are for. :thumbs2:

Now I’m sure some of you are saying “But Rancher, sure your covered in the shower and when you go to bed, but this thread is about protecting yourself when you go to your car…what about then?�

Another good question…and a lot tougher tactical situation. In the house, I can use all manner of bobby traps to catch the BG’s, but outside those nasty liberals hold sway and actually think their children and pets have a right to live, so anything containing HE connected to a trip wire is out :rules: (well actually, not completely, but I would never admit to that on an open forum :nono: ).

You also have the problem that snipers could be lurking anywhere up to 2,000 meters away. Sure, I could probably spot up to two of them, but what about the 3rd, 4th, and 5th one? It’s just way to risky without Tac-Air backup.

So my solution is similar to the throw down wallet…I have a car that’s parked in my driveway, but I never use it. My real transportation (yes of course it’s a fully armored Hummer) is parked in a different location each day and never closer than 2 miles to my house. I also have multiple sets of tags for it and change them around regularly. What about the paint job you ask…it gets the latest camo style every 2 months.

In the house I have dug a tunnel that runs to an alleyway 300 meters away and exits through a dummy trash bin that I had put there. Of course there are several other tunnels and exit points, but I won’t disclose them here…after all, this is an open forum and I have to be concerned about OPSEC (I can’t be sure who, but I know they’re out to get me).

Remember, you can never be too prepared…

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:44 pm
by Tactical_Texan_CHL
I just laughed so hard, I peed a little.

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:04 pm
by stevie_d_64
I'm a little dissapointed... ;-)

You failed to setup any "layered" perimeter defence utilizing claymores... :totap: ;-)

Keep the pups inside of that...And I think you have it covered..."rlol"

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:53 pm
by 0_down
Tactical_Texan_CHL wrote:I just laughed so hard, I peed a little.
milk came out my nose...

:lol:

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:04 pm
by LarryH
TX Rancher wrote:Instead, I have sown Velcro to a glove and glued the mating portion to a 1911 with an extended mag (may need the extra rounds you know!). That way I always have a weapon in my hands…how’s that for minimizing response time!

Remember, you can never be too prepared…
As long as you don't have to scratch yourself in the middle of the night. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:50 pm
by mr surveyor
0_down wrote:
Tactical_Texan_CHL wrote:I just laughed so hard, I peed a little.
milk came out my nose...

:lol:


mine too... and I wasn't even drinking milk "rlol"

Re: Remember to pack, even for a quick trip out to the car...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:02 pm
by Turfspanker
NcongruNt wrote:Another reason to always carry, even if you're just walking out to your car...

This guy's last stop was 2 blocks from my apartment. It very well could have been me at gunpoint had this robber/carjacker picked a different apartment complex

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/n ... bbery.html
Thanks for the reminder NcongruNt.
I live in a nice part of Austin, but that doesn't mean I should let my guard down anywhere.
I know many APD folks here. I'm sure there was some celebrating when they nabbed this jack...