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I have friends who keep making statements to people in our chat group that TX LTC has far more benefits than Constitutional Carry. I maintain my LTC purely for reciprocity purposes. I also enjoy the No background checks aspect in TX when buying a new gun. Aside from reciprocity purposes and no background check when buying a new gun what are these “far more benefits”. They seem to imply that LTC holders some how have special carry privileges in TX that Constitutional Carriers do not Everytime I ask them to quantify they never do. Am I missing something or are they misunderstanding something?

I see no such special privileges for one group vs the other as far as actual carry in the state of TX specifically (unless CC at capital is different for both)

LTCs:
-are exempt from the Federal 1000' gun free zone around schools.
-(should) know the laws of when, and when you can't, carry, shoot, or "brandish".
-can carry at hospitals, nursing homes, amusement parks, and governmental meetings if not otherwise posted with a 30.06 and/or 30.07
-Gun buster signs have no affect.
-can carry on college campus' (with some limitations)
-get a "do over" if they forget their gun while going through TSA at the airport.
-reciprocity in other states (although this may become a lesser point as more states go to permitless carry)

There may be more legal scrutiny in a self-defense situation for non-LTCs but this is just a guess.

In some states (Missouri for one), if you have a permit and carry into a prohibited location, there is no criminal penalty, they can just make you leave. With unlicensed carry you can be charged, depending on location, with up to a Class C felony.

Troglodyte pretty much hit all the points. You can pick your kids up from school, they can’t. You can go to Walmart, they can’t. You know when you can and when you can’t or shouldn’t draw your weapon.

One thing not mentioned is interaction with Law enforcement. You present your LTC and I’ll guarantee you will be treated much differently than someone without one.

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:06 pm …. You can go to Walmart, they can’t.

Also other establishments that sale alcohol. WalMart as well as the local 7-11, Grocery Stores,etc… that have alcohol sales. I don’t think people think about this.

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:01 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:06 pm …. You can go to Walmart, they can’t.

Also other establishments that sale alcohol. WalMart as well as the local 7-11, Grocery Stores,etc… that have alcohol sales. I don’t think people think about this.

Sorry sir, but incorrect. TABC Blue signs are no longer valid. Under HB 1927 unlicensed can now carry into establishments that sell alcohol ( off site consumption ). I sort of joked about Walmart because they began putting up 30.05 signs even before CC became legal. 30.05 of course being for unlicensed carry only, this mean nothing to LTC.

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:01 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:06 pm …. You can go to Walmart, they can’t.

Also other establishments that sale alcohol. WalMart as well as the local 7-11, Grocery Stores,etc… that have alcohol sales. I don’t think people think about this.

I do not believe this is correct. The only locations that sell alcohol that are off limits by statute in 46.03 are:
"(7) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;"

This only applies to 51% locations. The TABC blue sign that communicated the prohibition on unlicensed carry of a firearm where alcohol sold for off-premises consumption or on premises consumption where the sale of alcohol was <51% of revenues was repealed with the Constitutional Carry bill - 87R HB1927.

Section 7 doesn't apply to license holders if the location hasn't posted 30.06/7 signs.

(p) Sections 46.03(a)(7), (11), and (13) do not apply if the actor:
(1) carries a handgun on the premises or other property, as applicable;
(2) holds a license to carry a handgun issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code; and
(3) was not given effective notice under Section 30.06 or 30.07 of this code or Section 411.204, Government Code, as applicable.

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:35 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:01 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:06 pm …. You can go to Walmart, they can’t.

Also other establishments that sale alcohol. WalMart as well as the local 7-11, Grocery Stores,etc… that have alcohol sales. I don’t think people think about this.

Sorry sir, but incorrect. TABC Blue signs are no longer valid. Under HB 1927 unlicensed can now carry into establishments that sell alcohol ( off site consumption ). I sort of joked about Walmart because they began putting up 30.05 signs even before CC became legal. 30.05 of course being for unlicensed carry only, this mean nothing to LTC.

I admittedly don't go to Wallyworld often, so I may have missed it, but I have yet to see a 30.05 sign there. I do see 30.05 on HEB doors though.

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:39 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:35 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:01 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:06 pm …. You can go to Walmart, they can’t.

Also other establishments that sale alcohol. WalMart as well as the local 7-11, Grocery Stores,etc… that have alcohol sales. I don’t think people think about this.

Sorry sir, but incorrect. TABC Blue signs are no longer valid. Under HB 1927 unlicensed can now carry into establishments that sell alcohol ( off site consumption ). I sort of joked about Walmart because they began putting up 30.05 signs even before CC became legal. 30.05 of course being for unlicensed carry only, this mean nothing to LTC.

I admittedly don't go to Wallyworld often, so I may have missed it, but I have yet to see a 30.05 sign there. I do see 30.05 on HEB doors though.

Yeah, I have heard of HEB going all out. Walmart is spotty, but they made some news because the signs were going up before 9/1/2021.

I always learn something here. Thanks for the clarification.

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:46 pm

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:39 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:35 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:01 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:06 pm …. You can go to Walmart, they can’t.

Also other establishments that sale alcohol. WalMart as well as the local 7-11, Grocery Stores,etc… that have alcohol sales. I don’t think people think about this.

Sorry sir, but incorrect. TABC Blue signs are no longer valid. Under HB 1927 unlicensed can now carry into establishments that sell alcohol ( off site consumption ). I sort of joked about Walmart because they began putting up 30.05 signs even before CC became legal. 30.05 of course being for unlicensed carry only, this mean nothing to LTC.

I admittedly don't go to Wallyworld often, so I may have missed it, but I have yet to see a 30.05 sign there. I do see 30.05 on HEB doors though.

Yeah, I have heard of HEB going all out. Walmart is spotty, but they made some news because the signs were going up before 9/1/2021.

HEB does not post 30.06 - so still allows concealed carry. They've always been 30.07 ever since open carry passed.