Charles L. Cotton wrote:Keith is right. Out-of-state licenses and licensees are not a problem and we have many years of experience to back that up. The problem began and will come to a conclusion because of irresponsible advertising by a small number of instructors.
And the special interests who think they lost money (or face) because of the "irresponsible advertising" businesses and especially the politicians who are willing to support anti-carry legislation at the request of those special interests.
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I don't like the situation any better than anyone else. However, it is what we are facing and we should place blame on the appropriate shoulders.
I agree completely. The legislators should be held responsible for the bills they support. And fail to support.
sent to you from my safe space in the hill country
I just moved here from Minnesota. I have Utah, Arizona and Florida non-resident permits; it is my understanding that Texas honors all three. I've read the Texas law, gone to the Texas DPS website, and read through this thread as well as other threads here on this forum in an effort to educate myself. I've also gone to other websites and done the "mapping" functions to verify that Texas does in fact recognize non-resident permits/licenses from these three states.
From reading this thread, it appears that the Texas legislature may consider action in the future regarding whether or not Texas honors the out of state carry permits/licenses of Texas residents who have non-Texas permits/licenses. But the state of Texas has not yet taken any action regarding this.
I signed up today for a class to obtain my Texas CHL. While speaking with the instructor, I mentioned that while I was waiting to have my Texas CHL processed, I would be carrying using an out of state carry permit. He told me not to do this because Texas would not honor any of my out of state permits/licenses since I am now a Texas resident. He said the Texas state legislature just passed that law this year, and it went into effect September 1.
Am I correct in my assessment that today, I am legal to carry in Texas with either my Utah or Florida non-resident permits and that the Texas legislature has not taken any action on this subject as of yet?
Best advice I was ever given- Don't mess with the dog while he's eatin'.
Your Utah permit will only be good until expiration unless you get a Texas CHL. Utah did pass a law stating you had to have a license from your state of residence before they would issue a new or renew and existing non-resident license.
However, as G. A. Heath stated, Texas did not pass any law regarding this and your instructor was mistaken. However, this topic is here because the poor practices of a few instructors here in Texas bringing this to the surface and rubbing everyone's faces in the fact you can bypass getting a Texas CHL and carry on a non-resident license.
Keith
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
tool4daman wrote:I signed up today for a class to obtain my Texas CHL. While speaking with the instructor, I mentioned that while I was waiting to have my Texas CHL processed, I would be carrying using an out of state carry permit. He told me not to do this because Texas would not honor any of my out of state permits/licenses since I am now a Texas resident. He said the Texas state legislature just passed that law this year, and it went into effect September 1.
G.A. Heath wrote:Your instructor is mistaken, but you need to update your out of state permits so that they reflect your correct address.
Perhaps you should drop your instructor a friendly email, so that this mistaken information is not told to another student. It's not as if he's trying to encourage Texas CHLs over out-of-state licenses, as he already had you signed up for class when this issue arose. He might also tell students the same while in the actual course, causing people to not carry legally while waiting for the Texas plastic to arrive.
"We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box." - L. McDonald
Maybe they're the ones getting so upset over the "Utah Problem" when they're the real problem.
I believe the basic political division in this country is not between liberals and conservatives but between those who believe that they should have a say in the personal lives of strangers and those who do not.
