03Lightningrocks wrote:After reading that Watauga story I am left wondering if these departments that act hostile aren't suffering from an ego problem. It seems as though they are trying anything they can to keep from admitting they did something wrong.
I'm wondering why these officer that wrongfully arrested these people are not being held to the same legal rules that civilians are held to...
I also agree with the ego issue. Seems they're going above and beyond to maintain they were justified.
It just chaps my hide that these gestapo tactics go unpunished.
+1000, It does the same to me.
Before this is taken the wrong way I wanted to say that it's not because of any hate/animosity I have for Law Enforcement. It's just that I know if a civilian had made a mistake they would be prosecuted to the fullest. Now, since this is an officer it's trying to be swept under the rug and forgot about it seems. It is unfair to think just because it was law enforcement that they should go unpunished. I'm not even saying that he should be terminated. However, he should have some sort of notice put in his file that if he repeats something of this sort he should then be terminated.
Anyone ever heard the phrase, " Ignorance of the law is NOT an excuse."
I think it should work both ways. Even if the officer didn't know it had to be an intentional display of the firearm he should be held accountable. Just like a civilian would be held accountable for their actions.
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glbedd53 wrote:Sorry if I missed something, this was pretty long, but if you persue this, I would like to chip in a few bucks, I'll keep watchin
Thanks but according to my attorney false arrest is hard to prove. The NRA and other organizations have little or no interest in my case so I will not pursue this. Unfortunately this will happen again. If your gun is identified in Round Rock you will go to jail. Your CHL means nothing to the RRPD, in fact they will tell you that you will not get it back with glee. The law states that the gun must be intentionally, recklessly or purposefully exposed to be in violation of the law but you won’t have time to educate the arresting officer. You will be cuffed and taken for a ride while the officers involved pat themselves on the back.
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glbedd53 wrote:Sorry if I missed something, this was pretty long, but if you persue this, I would like to chip in a few bucks, I'll keep watchin
Thanks but according to my attorney false arrest is hard to prove. The NRA and other organizations have little or no interest in my case so I will not pursue this. Unfortunately this will happen again. If your gun is identified in Round Rock you will go to jail. The law states that the gun must be intentionally, recklessly or purposefully exposed to be in violation of the law but you won’t have time to educate the arresting officer. You will be cuffed and taken for a ride while the officers involved pat themselves on the back.
So, do you know who ratted you out?
It just seems so strange.
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glbedd53 wrote:Sorry if I missed something, this was pretty long, but if you persue this, I would like to chip in a few bucks, I'll keep watchin
Thanks but according to my attorney false arrest is hard to prove. The NRA and other organizations have little or no interest in my case so I will not pursue this. Unfortunately this will happen again. If your gun is identified in Round Rock you will go to jail. The law states that the gun must be intentionally, recklessly or purposefully exposed to be in violation of the law but you won’t have time to educate the arresting officer. You will be cuffed and taken for a ride while the officers involved pat themselves on the back.
So, do you know who ratted you out?
It just seems so strange.
Apperantly I should be able to get a copy of the police report and 911 call. These are public records and all I have to do is file an Open Records Request for the items and legally they have to provide them . I have been busy making a living and have not done so. I will post it here when I get the results.
glbedd53 wrote:Sorry if I missed something, this was pretty long, but if you persue this, I would like to chip in a few bucks, I'll keep watchin
Thanks but according to my attorney false arrest is hard to prove. The NRA and other organizations have little or no interest in my case so I will not pursue this. Unfortunately this will happen again. If your gun is identified in Round Rock you will go to jail. The law states that the gun must be intentionally, recklessly or purposefully exposed to be in violation of the law but you won’t have time to educate the arresting officer. You will be cuffed and taken for a ride while the officers involved pat themselves on the back.
So, do you know who ratted you out?
It just seems so strange.
Apparently I should be able to get a copy of the police report and 911 call. These are public records and all I have to do is file an Open Records Request for the items and legally they have to provide them . I have been busy making a living and have not done so. I will post it here when I get the results.
handog,
I don't know what's involved in an Open Records Request but If you have to make it in person or pick up the documents in person take a witness or better yet a lawyer with you to avoid any possibity of the type of treatment the guy in Carrollton said he received at the police station. i.e. Assault and intimidation. Or maybe get a button cam.
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glbedd53 wrote:Sorry if I missed something, this was pretty long, but if you persue this, I would like to chip in a few bucks, I'll keep watchin
Thanks but according to my attorney false arrest is hard to prove. The NRA and other organizations have little or no interest in my case so I will not pursue this. Unfortunately this will happen again. If your gun is identified in Round Rock you will go to jail. The law states that the gun must be intentionally, recklessly or purposefully exposed to be in violation of the law but you won’t have time to educate the arresting officer. You will be cuffed and taken for a ride while the officers involved pat themselves on the back.
So, do you know who ratted you out?
It just seems so strange.
Apparently I should be able to get a copy of the police report and 911 call. These are public records and all I have to do is file an Open Records Request for the items and legally they have to provide them . I have been busy making a living and have not done so. I will post it here when I get the results.
handog,
I don't know what's involved in an Open Records Request but If you have to make it in person or pick up the documents in person take a witness or better yet a lawyer with you to avoid any possibity of the type of treatment the guy in Carrollton said he received at the police station. i.e. Assault and intimidation. Or maybe get a button cam.
Actually Sergeant Goldman was quite courteous when I went to file a complaint. I have mailed my open records request and should hear back within 14 days.
handog,
I don't know what's involved in an Open Records Request but If you have to make it in person or pick up the documents in person take a witness or better yet a lawyer with you to avoid any possibity of the type of treatment the guy in Carrollton said he received at the police station. i.e. Assault and intimidation. Or maybe get a button cam.[/quote]
Actually Sergeant Goldman was quite courteous when I went to file a complaint. I have mailed my open records request and should hear back within 14 days.[/quote]
That's encouraging news. I'm sure the officers you encountered are not representative of the force.
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handog wrote:Pics coming soon. You will see it was a common set up. IWB holster untucked loose shirt.
I was just now directed to this thread. I haven't been able to find the pics. If you still have them, can you, please, post the pics of how you were dressed and concealing on that day?
Thanks.
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handog wrote:Pics coming soon. You will see it was a common set up. IWB holster untucked loose shirt.
I was just now directed to this thread. I haven't been able to find the pics. If you still have them, can you, please, post the pics of how you were dressed and concealing on that day?
