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Re: Concealed carry while employed by the State?

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here is the regulation for the state parks concerning firearms. :rules:


59.134 Rules of Conduct: d) Arms and Firearms. It is an offense for any person to display or discharge an arm or firearm in a state park, unless:
the person is participating in a public hunting activity within the state park that has been authorized by written order of the director so long as the person is in compliance with the applicable public hunting rules and regulations; or the person has been authorized by written order of the director.

59.131 Definitions.
The following words and terms when used in this chapter, shall have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.

Arms and Firearms: Any device from which shot, a projectile, arrow, or bolt is fired by the force of an explosion, compressed air, gas or mechanical device. To include, but not limited to, rifle, shotgun, handgun, air rifle, pellet gun, longbow, cross bow, sling shot, blow gun, or dart gun.
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Re: Concealed carry while employed by the State?

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airborned wrote:here is the regulation for the state parks concerning firearms. :rules:


59.134 Rules of Conduct: d) Arms and Firearms. It is an offense for any person to display or discharge an arm or firearm in a state park, unless:
the person is participating in a public hunting activity within the state park that has been authorized by written order of the director so long as the person is in compliance with the applicable public hunting rules and regulations; or the person has been authorized by written order of the director.

59.131 Definitions.
The following words and terms when used in this chapter, shall have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.

Arms and Firearms: Any device from which shot, a projectile, arrow, or bolt is fired by the force of an explosion, compressed air, gas or mechanical device. To include, but not limited to, rifle, shotgun, handgun, air rifle, pellet gun, longbow, cross bow, sling shot, blow gun, or dart gun.
That seems contradictory to state law, which allows the open carrying of long guns.
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Re: Concealed carry while employed by the State?

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C-dub wrote:
airborned wrote:here is the regulation for the state parks concerning firearms. :rules:


59.134 Rules of Conduct: d) Arms and Firearms. It is an offense for any person to display or discharge an arm or firearm in a state park, unless:
the person is participating in a public hunting activity within the state park that has been authorized by written order of the director so long as the person is in compliance with the applicable public hunting rules and regulations; or the person has been authorized by written order of the director.

59.131 Definitions.
The following words and terms when used in this chapter, shall have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.

Arms and Firearms: Any device from which shot, a projectile, arrow, or bolt is fired by the force of an explosion, compressed air, gas or mechanical device. To include, but not limited to, rifle, shotgun, handgun, air rifle, pellet gun, longbow, cross bow, sling shot, blow gun, or dart gun.
That seems contradictory to state law, which allows the open carrying of long guns.
Actually, it's against the Texas Constitution which only allows the Legislature to regulate the wearing of arms. :tiphat:
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Re: Concealed carry while employed by the State?

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Pawpaw wrote:
C-dub wrote:
airborned wrote:here is the regulation for the state parks concerning firearms. :rules:


59.134 Rules of Conduct: d) Arms and Firearms. It is an offense for any person to display or discharge an arm or firearm in a state park, unless:
the person is participating in a public hunting activity within the state park that has been authorized by written order of the director so long as the person is in compliance with the applicable public hunting rules and regulations; or the person has been authorized by written order of the director.

59.131 Definitions.
The following words and terms when used in this chapter, shall have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.

Arms and Firearms: Any device from which shot, a projectile, arrow, or bolt is fired by the force of an explosion, compressed air, gas or mechanical device. To include, but not limited to, rifle, shotgun, handgun, air rifle, pellet gun, longbow, cross bow, sling shot, blow gun, or dart gun.
That seems contradictory to state law, which allows the open carrying of long guns.
Actually, it's against the Texas Constitution which only allows the Legislature to regulate the wearing of arms. :tiphat:


You guys can take that up with the director lol.
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Re: Concealed carry while employed by the State?

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airborned wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:
C-dub wrote:
airborned wrote:here is the regulation for the state parks concerning firearms. :rules:


59.134 Rules of Conduct: d) Arms and Firearms. It is an offense for any person to display or discharge an arm or firearm in a state park, unless:
the person is participating in a public hunting activity within the state park that has been authorized by written order of the director so long as the person is in compliance with the applicable public hunting rules and regulations; or the person has been authorized by written order of the director.

59.131 Definitions.
The following words and terms when used in this chapter, shall have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.

Arms and Firearms: Any device from which shot, a projectile, arrow, or bolt is fired by the force of an explosion, compressed air, gas or mechanical device. To include, but not limited to, rifle, shotgun, handgun, air rifle, pellet gun, longbow, cross bow, sling shot, blow gun, or dart gun.
That seems contradictory to state law, which allows the open carrying of long guns.
Actually, it's against the Texas Constitution which only allows the Legislature to regulate the wearing of arms. :tiphat:


You guys can take that up with the director lol.
That's cool. I was was only pointing out that the rule was contradictory to state law and wondering how enforceable it was because of that. I hope you didn't think I was wanting you to lead that charge and challenge the rule yourself.
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Re: Concealed carry while employed by the State?

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From the TPWD Employee Internal website - Wildnet

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Executive Director Order Number 98-01 – Concealed Handguns
Policy Number: LF-98-01
Type of Policy: Lands and Facilities
Date: July 8, 1998

All policies are in compliance with federal and state law and statutes and with the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code. The most current version of this policy will always be the on-line version.
Executive Director Order Number 98-01 – Concealed Handguns

"Nothing in the Public Hunting Lands Proclamation or State Parks Proclamation prohibits a person from possessing a concealed handgun, loaded or unloaded, under the authority of a concealed handgun license issued by this state or any other state. Persons carrying concealed handguns must comply with all concealed handgun laws.

The Executive Director reserves the right to prohibit the carrying of all firearms during certain events or in certain locations on Departmental lands."

Department Policy on Concealed Handguns

Unless prohibited by the Executive Director during certain events or in certain locations, a person with a concealed handgun license has the right to posses a handgun, loaded or unloaded, at all times and at all locations on Department lands as long as the person is in compliance with the concealed handgun laws.

The concealed handgun laws do not provide for the visible display of a handgun or for the use of a handgun as a hunting weapon. If a person visibly displays a handgun or uses it for hunting, then the person is not in compliance with the concealed handgun laws and is subject to Public Hunting Lands Regulations and State Park Rules concerning the use and possession of a firearm.

Persons with a concealed handgun license may possess a concealed and loaded handgun on Department lands where the possession of a loaded firearm is otherwise prohibited, such as:

in or on a motor vehicle,
in a designated campground,
in a designated vehicle parking area,
in a designated boat launching facility, and
in a Department check station.

Persons with a concealed handgun license may possess a concealed handgun, loaded or unloaded, on Department lands in instances where certain types of firearms are otherwise prohibited such as:

during hunts when only archery equipment may be possessed,
during hunts when only shotguns may be possessed,
during hunts when only shotguns with non-toxic shot may be possessed,
during hunts when only rifles and handguns of no greater size than .22 caliber rimfire may be possessed, and
when participating in an activity for which the use and possession of a firearm is not authorized by the Department (other than exceptions as noted in the Executive Order).
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