Abbott supports Open and Campus Carry
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Abbott's support in the past leads me to believe he's telling the truth. I'm done with politics for now, though.
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I live in Wendy Davis' district. I have written her several times (very politely) concerning campus carry. She nor her office never even once replied to my letters in any way. She represents and cares about only the liberal agenda. Pro abortion at any stage for any reason. Anti gun to a fault. Ambitious and not in a good way. If she gets to the governor's seat, she will do all in her power to turn Texas blue and all in her power to tear down our gun rights. As long as it does not seriously hinder her goal to be President some day IMHO. She is not our friend.
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Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:as long as he doesn't have completely opposite views on a couple other subjects he'd have my vote!
Like what? Like you - I'm not going to vote for a candidate *just* because of 2nd amendment views. Those views are bonus, but they're not the "meat".
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I have noticed a Politician's attitude about freedom, liberty, and the Constitution relating to firearms is a very strong indicator of their willingness to entrust other areas of life to the people instead of centralizing government power and reach.cb1000rider wrote:Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:as long as he doesn't have completely opposite views on a couple other subjects he'd have my vote!
Like what? Like you - I'm not going to vote for a candidate *just* because of 2nd amendment views. Those views are bonus, but they're not the "meat".
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I care a lot about issues other than guns, but a candidate's position on guns and the Second Amendment is my first inquiry. If they are wrong on either, then I don't care how they feel about anything else. They cannot overcome being wrong on freedom's litmus test.cb1000rider wrote:Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:as long as he doesn't have completely opposite views on a couple other subjects he'd have my vote!
Like what? Like you - I'm not going to vote for a candidate *just* because of 2nd amendment views. Those views are bonus, but they're not the "meat".
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I too would like to know what you mean.Cedar Park Dad wrote:Please clarify this statement.Tic Tac wrote:You can see it on some gun forums already with the fifth columnists rampng up their smear tactics on open carry.baldeagle wrote:The liberals are working very hard to take over Texas. They've made it their special project. I guarantee you his support of open carry and campus carry will be used to smear him as an extremist. He'd better be ready to defend himself
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I suspect he means exactly what "fifth columnist" means; i.e. there are "traitors" within the gun community opposing open-carry. I anxiously await clarification.Vol Texan wrote:This is only a guess, but I think he's referring to the 'fifth estate', which is a term used to describe the web bloggers. It's an extension of the 'fourth estate' which is a term used to describe the media in general.Cedar Park Dad wrote:Please clarify this statement.Tic Tac wrote:You can see it on some gun forums already with the fifth columnists rampng up their smear tactics on open carry.baldeagle wrote:The liberals are working very hard to take over Texas. They've made it their special project. I guarantee you his support of open carry and campus carry will be used to smear him as an extremist. He'd better be ready to defend himself
From Wikipedia:So...perhaps he means a bunch of trolls out there on other gun forums already ramping up the rhetoric in advance of the 2014 gubernatorial election.Making reference to the medieval concept of "three estates of the realm" (Clergy, Nobility and Commons) and to a more recently developed model of "four estates", which encompasses the media, Nayef Al-Rodhan introduces the weblogs (blogs) as a "fifth estate of the realm". Blogs have potential and real influence on contemporary policymaking, especially in the context of elections, reporting from conflict zones, and raising dissent over corporate or congressional policies. Based on these observations, Al-Rodhan suggests moving beyond traditional thinking that limits the “estates of the realm” to governmental action and proposes a broader perspective in which civilians or anyone with access to a computer and the Internet can contribute to the global political change and security.[5]
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It is going to come down as either Greg Abbott or Wendy Davis as governor. What I know for sure, Wendy Davis is NOT who I want to be the governor of our state. The fact that Greg Abbott is an ardent supporter of gun rights and has been unflinchingly is just icing on the cake to me.
The only downside to him being governor is that he would not longer be our AG. In that respect, I hope we can replace him with somebody just as qualified.
The only downside to him being governor is that he would not longer be our AG. In that respect, I hope we can replace him with somebody just as qualified.
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That makes sense. To me, it's not primary. I want to know how they're going to manage our money and the economy in general. Texas is in good shape - maybe thanks to Perry - maybe nothing to do with Perry - and I don't want that screwed up. 2nd amendment comes in lower place.Charles L. Cotton wrote: I care a lot about issues other than guns, but a candidate's position on guns and the Second Amendment is my first inquiry. If they are wrong on either, then I don't care how they feel about anything else. They cannot overcome being wrong on freedom's litmus test.
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I'm always interested in people pointing out what they agree with or object to... And often I think that a candidates stance on controversial issues is all about retaining the support of the base. Abbot is pro open carry. That's great. Is he actually planning on making some changes?
Ms. Davis has her own set of issues, but I don't think we'll get a rational discussion out of them on this forum.
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Smitherman is quite the sparkplug and also 2A dedicated, having been first in the State (AFAIK) to permit his RR Commission employees to CHL on the job.SQLGeek wrote:I hope we can replace him with somebody just as qualified.
Unfortunately, he's had a bad case of foot-in-mouth recently.
I don't know much about Branch, Paxton or Glass(L), yet.
An endorsement from Abbott would carry a lot of weight for me.
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Keith - That's probably the best explanation that I have heard.Keith B wrote:The state is turning blue because they are trying to choke the living crap out of everything good thing there is here.baldeagle wrote: The leftists are spending megabucks here to turn the state blue.

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If we go blue state income tax will not be far behind. I hate to say this but I see it happening within the next decade, I pray that I am wrong. If Texas does go blue I will strongly consider packing up and leaving my home state.
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nightmare69 wrote:If we go blue state income tax will not be far behind. I hate to say this but I see it happening within the next decade, I pray that I am wrong.

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I have said this elsewhere on this forum. I have personally had dealings with AG Abbott's office, one of which he personally called me on. He's got my vote for whatever he wants, whenever he wants it.
Those that protect and/or act to restore my God given right to self defense has insured I can protect all of my other natural rights.I care a lot about issues other than guns, but a candidate's position on guns and the Second Amendment is my first inquiry. If they are wrong on either, then I don't care how they feel about anything else. They cannot overcome being wrong on freedom's litmus test.
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