CHL Concern

[TrackinPat]

That's a tough one for sure but I agree with everyone else that either counseling or waiting until he does something illegal is the best option. My brother is bipolar and extremely aggressive and I know he has guns (no CHL though) but I don't attempt to disarm him because I know I don't have the right to do that and he hasn't ever threatened someone with one. You just have to be extra careful.

[davenewman12]

It gets edgy talking about mental stability and disarming people. As it has been said if he's a threat call the police. If he needs help, help him. You are family you can reach him better than anyone. It's all about a relationship with that person. Start a new one with one on one and build a relationship with him. I'll pray for you and your family.

[jmra]

It gets edgy talking about mental stability and disarming people. As it has been said if he's a threat call the police. If he needs help, help him. You are family you can reach him better than anyone. It's all about a relationship with that person. Start a new one with one on one and build a relationship with him. I'll pray for you and your family.

just to clarify - taking away someone's CHL (what the OP was suggesting) does nothing to disarm the individual. This is why the CHL is not relevant IMHO.

[flechero]

just to clarify - taking away someone's CHL (what the OP was suggesting) does nothing to disarm the individual. This is why the CHL is not relevant IMHO.

True.

And there are plenty of people that don't qualify for a CHL that are allowed to purchase and own firearms. (only pointing that out to underscore that the lack of a CHL won't necessarily take his guns away)

[VMI77]

. . .He has attacked family members, including myself, and completely lacks a filter.
I really wouldn't stir up a pot like this if I wasn't legitimately concerned.

Attacking you is against the law. Did you call the police? This would have/should have been the perfect time to intervene. If not then I guess you will have a wait and see circumstance.

I would avoid him and keep my family away from him.

That time, we left the police out of it...I was adequately able to defend myself without any significant physical injury to either of us.

Unfortunately, I wont be able to keep my family away from him for the time being...funeral stuff.

And therein lies part of the problem....you have no record of his irrational behavior. So, it looks like you have to wait for another attack.

[texanjoker]

Many people blow off steam after a tragic event without being a danger to others. If you feel this person may be at risk you may consider contacting your local police department and asking to speak to their mental health officer, (if they have one). Explain your concerns to the officer to include the prior assault. You do not have to 'press charges' but it establishes a pattern. Your calling doesn't mean they will or will not do anything, as he may or may not fall as a danger to himself or others. However if your concern is that great it is something to consider.

[TrackinPat]

Keep us updated on what happens! Prayers for you and the rest of your family.

[RoyGBiv]

The CHL is not relevant. He is either a danger to himself and others or he isn't. If he is, then you should take the same action you would if he didn't have a CHL. If you believe he is in fact a danger to himself or others, notify the proper authorities. If after they investigate they feel there is a need for an evaluation then the rest will take care of itself.

Simply put, if your focus is on the CHL, then you are focusing on the wrong thing. The CHL is not the issue and having it taken away does not resolve anything.

just to clarify - taking away someone's CHL (what the OP was suggesting) does nothing to disarm the individual. This is why the CHL is not relevant IMHO.

Spot on both times...

[bayouhazard]

I am genuinely concerned for the general public. Recently, he has suffered a loss of a family member, so his instability is off the charts.

Is there anything that can be done...even if only temporarily?

Texas Health and Safety Code 573.001/011 but be aware of the consequences. Especially if you're wrong.

[Pecos]

. . .He has attacked family members, including myself, and completely lacks a filter.
I really wouldn't stir up a pot like this if I wasn't legitimately concerned.

Attacking you is against the law. Did you call the police? This would have/should have been the perfect time to intervene. If not then I guess you will have a wait and see circumstance.

I would avoid him and keep my family away from him.

[Purplehood]

If you take or try to take a CHL away from a holder just because
you think a person should not have a CHL then you are helping the gun grabbers.

If gun grabbers get away with taking up CHL on suspicion that someone is psychological
unstable then all the grabbers have to do is take a list of gun rights advocates ( like the NRA membership roster)
and say they are unstable then take their guns.

Preserving our rights are the # 1 concern.

Give up freedom for a little security will leave you with the loss of both

Be aware and take precautions

I understand your point, but this person is also unfortunately family. We know what we know and it makes us uncomfortable, especially because it is him. We have more than "suspicion", we have 22 years of first hand knowledge.

Also, if we as responsible holders do not protect the greater good by exposing those who may cause a threat, wouldn't we be giving gun grabbers a reason to grab guns...we won't turn in our own kind just cause they "might be a little off"?

Until this individual commits an overt act that threatens the safety of others, no action should be taken. I would give him the same benefit of a doubt that I would ask for myself.

This is simply another example of what the gun-grabbers do on a continual basis...they villify the RKBA-folks for the things that we may do. They forget that laws are only broken when an unlawful action is actually committed. This is real-life and not a scene from Minority Report.

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[TrackinPat]

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[Excaliber]

Many people blow off steam after a tragic event without being a danger to others. If you feel this person may be at risk you may consider contacting your local police department and asking to speak to their mental health officer, (if they have one). Explain your concerns to the officer to include the prior assault. You do not have to 'press charges' but it establishes a pattern. Your calling doesn't mean they will or will not do anything, as he may or may not fall as a danger to himself or others. However if your concern is that great it is something to consider.

Good advice.

Get the folks who assess threats and odd behavior for a living involved. Besides knowing the law, their training and experience gives them a highly developed sense of what's dangerous and what's not, and they have the connections, tools and authority to act when action needs to be taken.

[TrackinPat]

Many people blow off steam after a tragic event without being a danger to others. If you feel this person may be at risk you may consider contacting your local police department and asking to speak to their mental health officer, (if they have one). Explain your concerns to the officer to include the prior assault. You do not have to 'press charges' but it establishes a pattern. Your calling doesn't mean they will or will not do anything, as he may or may not fall as a danger to himself or others. However if your concern is that great it is something to consider.

Good advice.

Get the folks who assess threats and odd behavior for a living involved. Besides knowing the law, their training and experience gives them a highly developed sense of what's dangerous and what's not, and they have the connections, tools and authority to act when action needs to be taken.

Not to mention they have confidentiality!