Are you still comfortable?

[snatchel]

I feel comfortable with my EDC, consisting of the following:

G17 + extra mag= 34+1 of Speer God Dot 147 gr

OR

G30 + extra mag = 20+1 of Hornady Crit. Def 230 gr

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AND, I have made it a daily habit to carry a BUG in my pocket since I acquired one a month or so ago:

LCP = 6+1 of Remington 90 gr FMJ

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So, I carry two guns, all the time. I think that both 9mm and 45 ACP are plenty capable of getting the
job done 99.9% of the time. In the event that a BG was armored, faceshots, hip shots, knee shots... etc.
That is assuming that shot placement worked. Realistically, if I were to shoot, it would probably be more of
a "mag-dump while retreating as quickly as I can" kinda deal.

Armor prevents bullets from going through in most cases, yes; however, I guarantee that multiple hits
to the armor, heck even a couple of hits to armor, would be sufficient to distract said BG enough to
provide a hasty retreat.

[cheezit]

Too many people carry convenient and not realistic. Mouse guns are better than nothing but I am not going to chance my life on it

yup more often then not that is me. .38 steel j-frame

[psijac]

The likelyhood ofcoming against a hard target is exceedingly small. People are comparing this event with the north Hollywood shoot out over 2 decades ago.

[gigag04]

I frequently carry a .380. If the gun doesn't work, I'll go to hands.

I'm still comfortable with it, but a more "powerful" round is preferable when practical.

[Shinesintx]

The likelyhood ofcoming against a hard target is exceedingly small. People are comparing this event with the north Hollywood shoot out over 2 decades ago.

There is a lot of truth to your statements...but I was just wondering how many of those that carry, have become less comfortable and would they change anything.

[karder]

In the event that a BG was armored, faceshots, hip shots, knee shots... etc.
That is assuming that shot placement worked. Realistically, if I were to shoot, it would probably be more of
a "mag-dump while retreating as quickly as I can" kinda deal.

This is my basic theory. I carry a FiveseveN with EA PenetraTOR ammo. (Of course my shooting buddies never hesitate to educate me about my poor choice in caliber) Personally, I am not one of those guys who would discount any caliber nor do I believe in magic bullets or magic body armor. If you can shoot straight and fast, you can stop most any threat. I carry the FiveseveN much more because it allows me to shoot straight and fast, than because I believe I will need to penetrate soft body armor. I tend to believe that if someone in that Colorado theater had been armed and able to dump 5-10 rounds of 9mm or greater, Holmes would have been stopped despite his armor.

I spend time at every range session practicing failure drills, and I think that two to the chest and one to the head with any decent caliber would have stopped Holmes, but that is just assumption of course.

The morning after this evil event, President Obama commented "my daughters love going to the movies. I keep thinking to myself, what if Sasha and (whatever the other one's name is) had been in that theater."
Well Mr. President, your daughters travel with a highly trained, heavily armed Secret Service detail who would have likely engaged and terminated Mr. Holmes the minute he entered the theater and threw the smoke grenade.

The real problem is not that Holmes was wearing soft armor, but that no one apparently was capable of engaging him with a weapon of any caliber. The first guys with guns that he ran into, the police in this case, he sat down and gave up. The gun control folks don't like that point of view.

[snatchel]

In the event that a BG was armored, faceshots, hip shots, knee shots... etc.
That is assuming that shot placement worked. Realistically, if I were to shoot, it would probably be more of
a "mag-dump while retreating as quickly as I can" kinda deal.

The morning after this evil event, President Obama commented "my daughters love going to the movies. I keep thinking to myself, what if Sasha and (whatever the other one's name is) had been in that theater."
Well Mr. President, your daughters travel with a highly trained, heavily armed Secret Service detail who would have likely engaged and terminated Mr. Holmes the minute he entered the theater and threw the smoke grenade.

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Obama... he makes everything about him. My daughters, what my son would look like.. etc.

[rm9792]

EDC is 45 acp so still comfortable. Guess i could go to a 460 Rowland.....

[RPB]

I have two pocket sized guns that I carry occasionally. One is a 9mm. The other is a .357 magnum. Both are calibers that will get the job done. But my two primary carry guns are both .45 ACP pistols, as are the two other large framed pistols that I occasionally carry. So no, I don't feel like I need to revisit caliber. If you tag someone in the vitals with a good +P 9mm, they're going to be hit pretty much as hard as if they'd been shot with a .40 or a .45. And .357 magnums have accounted for an awful lot of 1 shot stops over the years. But I absolutely will not carry a .380 or some smaller caliber.

To me, the issue isn't caliber so much as capacity. My EDC is a CW45, and while it isn't a 3" 1911, it has the same limitation as a 3" 1911.......capacity. I don't plan on getting into a running gun battle. Not ever. But, men make plans, and God directs their path, as the Good Book says. The whole reason I recently acquired a XDm 45 Compact is that it has a higher capacity than my Kahr without the bulk of a full-sized gun. My CW45 remains my primary EDC simply because it is smaller and lighter and easier to carry, but I have begun carrying the XDm precisely when I am placing myself into situations (like movie theaters) where rapid egress may not be as easily accomplished and the tactical situation may be more confusing or confining. The XDm also has an excellent set of night sights on it. But when I'm driving around, I don't worry about that so much. My SUV is a much more potent weapon than any pistol if capacity is an issue, and I can use it to di-di mau out of there.

I really liked my xd45, wish I had not used all the shims on the front sight (at 21 feet it shoots 1-2" to the right and 4-5" low)

but your remark above ...

I had a laugh at my 1911 addicted buddy this morning when I handed him my Glock 26 with a Glock 17 mag and +3 base plate +1 chambered (21 rounds)

He shot 6 or 7 times, noticed the slide wasn't open, opened the slide a bit to peek at a chambered round,
shot 6 or 7 more times, noticed the slide wasn't open, opened the slide a bit at a chambered round,
shot 6 or 7 more times,
hollared at me
"HOW MANY ______ ROUNDS DOES THIS THING HOLD????? "

I was

I usually carry it with a Glock 19 mag, + 3 baseplate for 18+1 but sometimes use a Glock 26 +3 mag and only carry 13 rounds if I need it pocket-sized.

My Glock 26, and a full sized Kimber (my buddy's new carry) shot extremely accurate at 100-125 feet hand held using a bench rest for arm/wrist support. He looked at me and said "I found my NEW EDC, you keep carrying yours"

[sjfcontrol]

The morning after this evil event, President Obama commented "my daughters love going to the movies. I keep thinking to myself, what if Sasha and (whatever the other one's name is) had been in that theater."
Well Mr. President, your daughters travel with a highly trained, heavily armed Secret Service detail who would have likely engaged and terminated Mr. Holmes the minute he entered the theater and threw the smoke grenade.

Besides that, how would any bad-guy get into that theater in the basement of the white house?

[The Annoyed Man]

The likelyhood ofcoming against a hard target is exceedingly small. People are comparing this event with the north Hollywood shoot out over 2 decades ago.

There is a lot of truth to your statements...but I was just wondering how many of those that carry, have become less comfortable and would they change anything.

I was living and working in SoCal when that went down. The family of one of the shooters lived literally right around the corner from me. I'm not carrying for Armageddon, if you stop to think about it. If I was expecting trouble, I'd have brought a rifle along......

.....CW45: 6+1 plus 1 spare 7 round mag. 14 total rounds.

.....XDm 45 Compact 3.8: 9+1 plus 1 spare 13 round mag. 23 total rounds. That's the highest capacity gun I carry, not counting when I borrow my wife's G19. 23 rounds is plenty enough. If I need more, then I have larger issues, and the primary reason I carry a spare magazine is in case of a malfunction. However, if I have to reload, due to either malfunction or running dry, I just find a 13 round reload a lot more comforting than a 9 round reload.

OTH, I live so as to avoid these things if at all possible.

[77346]

Are you still comfortable with your EDC caliber?

I acquired a S&W Bodyguard 380 last May after looking at a few other guns. I was looking for something that I could easily conceal without having to re-think what I wear. I work in an office environment and wear docker/long sleeve shirts the entire year. The BG380 fits neatly in my front pocket with a wallet holster. (note: I cannot carry at the office, but do before/after I leave work).

Of all the options I evaluated, only this type of pistol fit was I was looking for in a gun... Baby Glock too bulky for my needs.

A week ago, before I got my CHL, I had nothing... better a 380 than nothing. Yeah, I know it's limitations, and I feel comfortable with what this gun offers. Maybe as times passes and I become more comfortable with concealing this, I may consider something else.

My home defense pistol is a Glock 17 and at this point I would not consider carrying that.

[Jaguar]

You cannot be prepared for every threat, otherwise we would all be wearing bomb proof suits all the time since some crazy person could have a suicide vest on at the mall. I carry what I am comfortable with, what I believe could stop 99% of all threats against myself or my family, and not worry about the 1% that could happen. My concern is an armed robber, convenience store robber, roid-rage psycho, road rage psycho, gang banger, disgruntled former employee, caught in a mob situation, or general ne'er-do-well. For these situations 15 rounds of 9mm will do fine, in the other situation all I can do is try to protect my family and myself, and hope for the best.

[SpringerFan]

I am comfortable carrying a LCP, just more comfortable carrying a xdsc9.

[ghostrider]

If I was expecting that kind of trouble, I'd be somewhere else.

Currently, I'm carrying 40S&W and I am still comfortable with that, but I will reviewing 'spare mag carry options'.