Thats just stupid. I don't have a CHL to dream about some sort of gunfight. I have it to protect my family. My wife has one for same.03Lightningrocks wrote:One of the guys involved posted about it all as soon as he got home. i saw the posts. he was definitely posting more info than I think he should have posted. His posts where all taken down by the next day when I went to get my drama fix on arfcom. he didn't seem to be bragging so much as to be looking for some kind of friendly confirmation that he was still a good guy. Most of the fellers there were just telling him he did good and what not. The quote above was from the posts....I think they may be calling that forum a blog. There was no bragging at all...IMHO. Just a freaked out guy posting way too much lawyer bait.Rayden wrote:Maybe I can't read but it didn't seem the blogger was actually the guy that fired the shots.
“She charges out of the (conference room) and my boss unloads his (handgun) on her, 6 rounds,” the blog read.
Oh...and your right. the guy posting was not the guy who shot her but he did fire several rounds at her head that missed. He said he was trying to keep her pinned down by firing over her head...LOL. Thank goodness none of his stray rounds killed an innocent bystander.
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According to the article (possibly video), she was also carrying a "mock" gun. I'm not sure exactly what they mean. Maybe it was a toy, maybe an airsoft type. Either way, once a co-worker has an arrow sticking out of his chest, proper identification of "that thing shaped exactly like a gun" is pretty low on the priority list.03Lightningrocks wrote:
The part about the whole deal that made me go hummmm, was that this gal must be one big bruiser of a woman. I have bow hunted and I can't load an arrow quick enough to draw and fire at someone to keep from getting knock down. Once the first arrow was fired, what you have is a woman standing there with a bow in her hand. Why didn't one of those guys just knock her out? One of them even had time to run out to his car, get his gun and come back in shooting. Legally it may be a good shoot, but I can't see myself blasting a gun at this chick in the same situation. i would have charged this crazy broad and hit her like a linebacker. She would have woke up three days later and not known her name...LOL.
In the absence of a "gun", I would agree that there may have been a better way to handle this situation. Only those present actually know (although shooting over her head to "keep her down" seems like a poor idea in any situation).
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The gun was not seen until after Batman and Robin had her trapped in a conference room. I have my thoughts on why they might have chosen shooting at her over just ending the conflict, but none of them paint Batman and Robin in a very masculine light. Like I said before...maybe the woman was HUGE....LOL....and they didn't feel secure enough in their self defense abilities to take her down with brute force and immediate action.Dave01 wrote:According to the article (possibly video), she was also carrying a "mock" gun. I'm not sure exactly what they mean. Maybe it was a toy, maybe an airsoft type. Either way, once a co-worker has an arrow sticking out of his chest, proper identification of "that thing shaped exactly like a gun" is pretty low on the priority list.03Lightningrocks wrote:
The part about the whole deal that made me go hummmm, was that this gal must be one big bruiser of a woman. I have bow hunted and I can't load an arrow quick enough to draw and fire at someone to keep from getting knock down. Once the first arrow was fired, what you have is a woman standing there with a bow in her hand. Why didn't one of those guys just knock her out? One of them even had time to run out to his car, get his gun and come back in shooting. Legally it may be a good shoot, but I can't see myself blasting a gun at this chick in the same situation. i would have charged this crazy broad and hit her like a linebacker. She would have woke up three days later and not known her name...LOL.
In the absence of a "gun", I would agree that there may have been a better way to handle this situation. Only those present actually know (although shooting over her head to "keep her down" seems like a poor idea in any situation).
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Unfortunately, I fear not all are thinking like you. I feel the same as you. I didn't get my CHL because I was tired of having sand kicked in my face.frazzled wrote:
Thats just stupid. I don't have a CHL to dream about some sort of gunfight. I have it to protect my family. My wife has one for same.
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Ms. Parker was shot several times by responding police officers after she turned on them with the bow.
Is the name calling really necessary?03Lightningrocks wrote:I have my thoughts on why they might have chosen shooting at her over just ending the conflict, but none of them paint Batman and Robin in a very masculine light. Like I said before...maybe the woman was HUGE....LOL....and they didn't feel secure enough in their self defense abilities to take her down with brute force and immediate action.
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I don't see it as name calling at all. Referring to them as Batman and Robin is my way of describing how I perceived their actions. You may see it some other way which I will respect if i can just ask you to do the same for my opinion.Captain Matt wrote:Ms. Parker was shot several times by responding police officers after she turned on them with the bow.Is the name calling really necessary?03Lightningrocks wrote:
The gun was not seen until after Batman and Robin had her trapped in a conference room. I have my thoughts on why they might have chosen shooting at her over just ending the conflict, but none of them paint Batman and Robin in a very masculine light. Like I said before...maybe the woman was HUGE....LOL....and they didn't feel secure enough in their self defense abilities to take her down with brute force and immediate action.
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I read the blog. Both shooters knew she was mentally ill. The one who shot over her head stated that her illness was his reason for not engaging her directly. He fired from outside in the parking lot. He went there to retrieve his firearm since he was not allowed to keep it at work.
As to why they didn't try to physically take her to the ground, I don't recall that issue being addressed.
As to the "blog", the council of many of the people on the msg board was to keep quiet. I admit, I appreciated knowing the facts from an I-Witness as opposed to the press.
It would be really great if the RKBA movement had some one the press would consistently use for feedback on this issues.
As to why they didn't try to physically take her to the ground, I don't recall that issue being addressed.
As to the "blog", the council of many of the people on the msg board was to keep quiet. I admit, I appreciated knowing the facts from an I-Witness as opposed to the press.
It would be really great if the RKBA movement had some one the press would consistently use for feedback on this issues.
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I'm an old guy. I need help with this here interweb terminology. Are you calling the forum message board a blog?Paddler112 wrote:I read the blog. Both shooters knew she was mentally ill. The one who shot over her head stated that her illness was his reason for not engaging her directly. He fired from outside in the parking lot. He went there to retrieve his firearm since he was not allowed to keep it at work.
As to why they didn't try to physically take her to the ground, I don't recall that issue being addressed.
As to the "blog", the council of many of the people on the msg board was to keep quiet. I admit, I appreciated knowing the facts from an I-Witness as opposed to the press.
It would be really great if the RKBA movement had some one the press would consistently use for feedback on this issues.
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Hmmmmm...
Don't bring a bow and arrow(s) to a gunfight...
The hypocracy of the step-father is absolutely telling...
Ohh...Its ok for Texans to carry a gun, until they shoot my step-daughter for doing something stupid and threatening...
What a nimrod...
Don't bring a bow and arrow(s) to a gunfight...
The hypocracy of the step-father is absolutely telling...
Ohh...Its ok for Texans to carry a gun, until they shoot my step-daughter for doing something stupid and threatening...
What a nimrod...
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Being crazy is just plain dangerous.
If one goes crazy and puts a reasonable person in fear of serious bodily injury the results may indeed be very sad.
There's a distant relative in my family who is flat out nuts, been in and out of state hospitals and is delusional. His daughter has repeatedly tried to get him permanently commited to those hospitals but they always release him. He is a very large fellow and I've told all the family to be prepared for the day he gets shot. There's no nice solution to these kinds of situtions and in the end you just have to trust "all things" to the Lord.
If one goes crazy and puts a reasonable person in fear of serious bodily injury the results may indeed be very sad.
There's a distant relative in my family who is flat out nuts, been in and out of state hospitals and is delusional. His daughter has repeatedly tried to get him permanently commited to those hospitals but they always release him. He is a very large fellow and I've told all the family to be prepared for the day he gets shot. There's no nice solution to these kinds of situtions and in the end you just have to trust "all things" to the Lord.
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The American Indian taught us this.stevie_d_64 wrote:Hmmmmm...
Don't bring a bow and arrow(s) to a gunfight...
I don't know that it is hypocracy. We all love our kids. I would take a bullet for mine. I think it is human nature to want to wish a situation that is tragic into something different. I can't picture any parent that loves their offspring expressing the cold blooded opinion that they got what they deserved in a situation like this. Let's give the man a break. He is simply trying to wrap his mind around how this could have been different.stevie_d_64 wrote:The hypocracy of the step-father is absolutely telling...
Ohh...Its ok for Texans to carry a gun, until they shoot my step-daughter for doing something stupid and threatening...
What a nimrod...
I don't think they should have shot her either....does this make me "anti-gun"?
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Right, Stevie. First rule of gunfightin': Bring a gun (not a bow and arrows). Deadly force is deadly force.
Note that Ms. Parker DID survive (shoot not to kill, but to stop the threat).
And I like this McInturf, even if he IS a lawyer. Seems to have his head on straight.
Note that Ms. Parker DID survive (shoot not to kill, but to stop the threat).
And I like this McInturf, even if he IS a lawyer. Seems to have his head on straight.