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wgoforth wrote:Well here is where you can order them, and shows the advantage of having it! Apparently it prevents you from sweeping a cop...." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;texanjoker wrote:Abraham wrote:Since we know there's a market for this stuff, who here has the courage to admit they want a CHL badge or sticker?
Anyone willing to step up to the plate?
I think the REAL question would be who in here is running around wearing their CHL badge....... you know there is one or two or threeI have yet to see one in person, but am going to LOL if somebody presents one to me vs their chl.
The closest I've seen here in TX is a guy wearing a "Texas militia" badge.
What I find unrealistic about the video is that the GG would move like he did--maybe that's what you mean wgoforth by "sweeping a cop". The rest of us would be "hands in the air" as soon as the cops arrived (and especially as the BG had no weapon.wgoforth wrote:Well here is where you can order them, and shows the advantage of having it! Apparently it prevents you from sweeping a cop...." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Don't be too sure that's what everyone else would do. I see people sweeping entire firing lines of folks who should know better. But yes, sweeping is inadvertently pointing your gun at others. I tell folks if I see a barrel, I am likely to return favor.TomsTXCHL wrote:What I find unrealistic about the video is that the GG would move like he did--maybe that's what you mean wgoforth by "sweeping a cop". The rest of us would be "hands in the air" as soon as the cops arrived (and especially as the BG had no weapon.wgoforth wrote:Well here is where you can order them, and shows the advantage of having it! Apparently it prevents you from sweeping a cop...." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
While I like the idea of "one hand holding the BG and the other showing my badge to the cops" I suspect I might have shot the SOB already thus no need to have my gun displayed at all anymore!
Seriously though, I'd likely have told the BG just to drop his knife and get the heck away from me before I did something like shoot him dead.
I assume my selected quote is what you were referring to.wgoforth wrote:Don't be too sure that's what everyone else would do. I see people sweeping entire firing lines of folks who should know better. But yes, sweeping is inadvertently pointing your gun at others. I tell folks if I see a barrel, I am likely to return favor.TomsTXCHL wrote:The rest of us would be "hands in the air" as soon as the cops arrived (and especially as the BG had no weapon.
texanjoker wrote:True story many years ago in CA there was an off duty security guard with a CHL/CCW as CA calls it. He had a crook at gun point. When the units arrived they didn't know what was going on so they ordered the person with the gun to put it down which is nothing out of the ordinary. Here is the best part. When he put it down the bad guy picked it up and was promptly shot by the leos.
Ameer wrote:texanjoker wrote:True story many years ago in CA there was an off duty security guard with a CHL/CCW as CA calls it. He had a crook at gun point. When the units arrived they didn't know what was going on so they ordered the person with the gun to put it down which is nothing out of the ordinary. Here is the best part. When he put it down the bad guy picked it up and was promptly shot by the leos.I love a happy ending!
Depends on the range. Some ranges are strictly monitored; some not at all. I won't go to the kind where you just have a key to let yourself in. Good place to get murdered for your guns, or shot by idiots who don't know any range rules (local outdoor range here in Brownwood for example). There are happy mediums. You just have to look around and find your comfort level. I am extremely safety conscious when it comes to gun handling and prefer not to be around those who are not.TomsTXCHL wrote:I assume my selected quote is what you were referring to.wgoforth wrote:Don't be too sure that's what everyone else would do. I see people sweeping entire firing lines of folks who should know better. But yes, sweeping is inadvertently pointing your gun at others. I tell folks if I see a barrel, I am likely to return favor.TomsTXCHL wrote:The rest of us would be "hands in the air" as soon as the cops arrived (and especially as the BG had no weapon.
If I or my wife has called the police, then I am expecting them and would certainly not wheel-around in surprise when they arrived. Or maybe you mean they were so close to have surprised ME which means my situational awareness was nil.
BTW I have not spent a lot of time at Texas public gun ranges (none, in fact, having only experienced private property shooting). Are they dangerous places?
Thanks for this. Didn't know some "just have a key" as I sure wouldn't want to go to those either.wgoforth wrote:Some ranges are strictly monitored; some not at all. I won't go to the kind where you just have a key to let yourself in. Good place to get murdered for your guns, or shot by idiots who don't know any range rules (local outdoor range here in Brownwood for example). There are happy mediums. You just have to look around and find your comfort level. I am extremely safety conscious when it comes to gun handling and prefer not to be around those who are not.
I am a member of a private club range that is "just have a key" controlled. We have never had a problem beyond vandalism (people shooting at signs) and since coming under a new set of officers around 2003 we have curtailed that. There is a lot of pride in membership, we are limited to 250 members and the ability to join is difficult and breaking rules is dealt with quickly.TomsTXCHL wrote:Thanks for this. Didn't know some "just have a key" as I sure wouldn't want to go to those either.wgoforth wrote:Some ranges are strictly monitored; some not at all. I won't go to the kind where you just have a key to let yourself in. Good place to get murdered for your guns, or shot by idiots who don't know any range rules (local outdoor range here in Brownwood for example). There are happy mediums. You just have to look around and find your comfort level. I am extremely safety conscious when it comes to gun handling and prefer not to be around those who are not.
It's nice to have friends with land for shooting but I'd like to have a good public range nearby, and I do not...
I think we are talking 2 different kinds of places. The outdoor ranges key controlled I am referring to are usually out of the way, secluded with not many people at a time. We had a murder at ours here in Brownwood years ago and 2 years ago on Christmas day a man was murdered at such a range in OK. Those keys get passed around to buddies and half the folks don't lock it, so lots of non-members come in. Think about it...just you and another guy by yourselves. You're not going to be alarmed at another guy with a gun. Pop. Between that and the dangerous shooters (ie, firing while someone is on the range checking targets after calling cease fire) I do not go to this one. That is why I said each range will be different, just check it out.Jaguar wrote:I am a member of a private club range that is "just have a key" controlled. We have never had a problem beyond vandalism (people shooting at signs) and since coming under a new set of officers around 2003 we have curtailed that. There is a lot of pride in membership, we are limited to 250 members and the ability to join is difficult and breaking rules is dealt with quickly.TomsTXCHL wrote:Thanks for this. Didn't know some "just have a key" as I sure wouldn't want to go to those either.wgoforth wrote:Some ranges are strictly monitored; some not at all. I won't go to the kind where you just have a key to let yourself in. Good place to get murdered for your guns, or shot by idiots who don't know any range rules (local outdoor range here in Brownwood for example). There are happy mediums. You just have to look around and find your comfort level. I am extremely safety conscious when it comes to gun handling and prefer not to be around those who are not.
It's nice to have friends with land for shooting but I'd like to have a good public range nearby, and I do not...
As far as getting murdered for your guns... um, you're at a gun range, that would be like robbing a gun store. I would think it would be one of the lest likely places to be murdered. I've said it before and will say it again, you meet the nicest people at a gun range. Usually I go on my Friday off work and can sit out in the country alone for hours at a time. It's a good way to decompress and sometimes I even shoot.
While it is a possibility I guess I just haven't thought about it. Members at our club are required to carry a badge, but that could be passed to an outsider just as easily as the key. You describe it perfectly, yes, it is an off the beaten path outdoor range and usually only one or two other groups there at one time, so I guess it is a possibility.wgoforth wrote:I think we are talking 2 different kinds of places. The outdoor ranges key controlled I am referring to are usually out of the way, secluded with not many people at a time. We had a murder at ours here in Brownwood years ago and 2 years ago on Christmas day a man was murdered at such a range in OK. Those keys get passed around to buddies and half the folks don't lock it, so lots of non-members come in. Think about it...just you and another guy by yourselves. You're not going to be alarmed at another guy with a gun. Pop. Between that and the dangerous shooters (ie, firing while someone is on the range checking targets after calling cease fire) I do not go to this one. That is why I said each range will be different, just check it out.