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Re: 7 killed at Ft Hood shooting

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Tax payers are already paying for 120mm canister/heat rounds...

Gunner, can, troops...
Fire.
On the wayyyyy. Boom.
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Pawpaw wrote:
philip964 wrote:I am a proponent of the death penalty. However, I would hope in this case they wait a really long time before they carry out sentencing.
Are you volunteering for them to send you the bill for his incarceration? ;-)
I agree with the long, drawn-out incarceration with the sentence of death. I would prefer to see the guy die on death-row because of old age. My taxes go to enough other crazy stuff that his incarceration wouldn't bother me a bit.
I simply do not want this poor example of humanity to get his wish for martyrdom.
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I say we use him as a crash test dummy and see how long he lasts. :evil2:
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Re: 7 killed at Ft Hood shooting

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C247 wrote:Tax payers are already paying for 120mm canister/heat rounds...

Gunner, can, troops...
Fire.
On the wayyyyy. Boom.
Works for me. Throw some pig carcasses in the casket for good measure and bury the pieces in Israel :tiphat: .
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Re: 7 killed at Ft Hood shooting

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johncanfield wrote:
C247 wrote:Tax payers are already paying for 120mm canister/heat rounds...

Gunner, can, troops...
Fire.
On the wayyyyy. Boom.
Works for me. Throw some pig carcasses in the casket for good measure and bury the pieces in Israel :tiphat: .
While the "extra fluff" comments are ridiculous, they got very old in a flash. Col. Hassan, is simply a soldier who betrayed his country,should got his fair punishment, end of story.
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Re: 7 killed at Ft Hood shooting

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Pawpaw wrote:
philip964 wrote:I am a proponent of the death penalty. However, I would hope in this case they wait a really long time before they carry out sentencing.
Are you volunteering for them to send you the bill for his incarceration? ;-)
I understand that the total bill to execute a criminal in Texas is much higher than the total cost to incarcerate for life without parole n Texas.

I don't mind paying my share of that extra bill.

In this case since he wants to be a martyr, I'd like to see him spend a long time in a wheel chair in prison in solitary, with nothing to do but think about it.
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C247 wrote:Tax payers are already paying for 120mm canister/heat rounds...

Gunner, can, troops...
Fire.
On the wayyyyy. Boom.
I always preferred: Gunner, beehive, troops.
(But perhaps I come from a different time.)

However, you do sound like a fellow tanker! :cheers2:
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Beiruty wrote:While the "extra fluff" comments are ridiculous, they got very old in a flash. Col. Hassan, is simply a soldier who betrayed his country,should got his fair punishment, end of story.
It's just a way to let off some frustration.

If you think this is bad, you should've heard some of the morbid humor in the military. Sometimes the nearer and dearer it was to our hearts, the more terrible the humor would've sounded to a civilian.
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Re: 7 killed at Ft Hood shooting

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Beiruty wrote:
johncanfield wrote:
C247 wrote:Tax payers are already paying for 120mm canister/heat rounds...

Gunner, can, troops...
Fire.
On the wayyyyy. Boom.
Works for me. Throw some pig carcasses in the casket for good measure and bury the pieces in Israel :tiphat: .
While the "extra fluff" comments are ridiculous, they got very old in a flash. Col. Hassan, is simply a soldier who betrayed his country,should got his fair punishment, end of story.
Please, stop using the convicts former rank. He is no longer entitled to it, in the present, or future..
He is now simply convict Hassan.. Or prisoner number xyz, or deceased

Thank you

EDIT: Oh, and if you truly think that is all he is, simply your average Soldier that betrayed his country, , I would have to disagree with you... As would several hundred thousands like me.
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He doesn't deserve to die. Put him in a solitary cell adorned by paintings of naked virgins on the walls and ceiling and feed him pulled pork BBQ and catfish; or as a dietary change, feed him some bacon and eggs and crawdads and/or Eggs Benedict. While we're at it, put the TP holder on the far right hand side of the commode.

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Oldgringo wrote:He doesn't deserve to die. Put him in a solitary cell adorned by paintings of naked virgins on the walls and ceiling and feed him pulled pork BBQ and catfish; or as a dietary change, feed him some bacon and eggs and crawdads and/or Eggs Benedict. While we're at it, put the TP holder on the far right hand side of the commode.

Allah u Akbar! :txflag:
I like your cell. Entertaining and food is fatty enough. :smilelol5: :smilelol5:
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Hasan has been dishonorably discharged. He is no longer considered a service member and has no rank.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Hasan- ... arged.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Keith B wrote:Hasan has been dishonorably discharged. He is no longer considered a service member and has no rank.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Hasan- ... arged.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's about time. :smash:
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Re: 7 killed at Ft Hood shooting

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Keith B wrote:Hasan has been dishonorably discharged. He is no longer considered a service member and has no rank.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Hasan- ... arged.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
An interesting thing to read in that article...
Earlier this year, NBC 5 Investigates was the first to report that the Department of Defense showed Hasan had been paid about $300,000 after his arrest for the Nov. 5, 2009, shooting.

After the NBC 5 investigation aired, three U.S. Representatives have drafted legislation that would stop military payments to soldiers awaiting trial for major crimes. The money would be returned to the solider if they are acquitted but if they are found guilty the money would go to the victims.
I have no sympathy for that pig Hasan, and I wish he could get the worst of everything mentioned here on this thread. He deserves to live the rest of his life in agonizing pain - although I doubt that will happen in Leavenworth to the extent that most of us here would hope.

But removing ourselves from this case...I have to disagree with the proposed legislation mentioned in the paragraph above. Imagine if a young soldier with a family is arrested for (and later acquitted of) a major crime - should the family suffer and be completely destitute until the trial is over? Something doesn't feel right about that.

True, it would happen in the civilian world. You get arrested for something major and cannot work while in jail awaiting trial - you'll lose your income, and likely your job, even if you get acquitted. But the family of a service member picks up & moves around the world unexpectedly, severely limiting the long-term employment options of the average military wife. I've known plenty of them to hold down jobs, but the lifestyle of being a military family makes it more difficult to gainfully pursue a career that would allow them to become self-sustaining if this were to happen.

I welcome your thoughts...
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Re: 7 killed at Ft Hood shooting

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Vol Texan wrote:
Keith B wrote:Hasan has been dishonorably discharged. He is no longer considered a service member and has no rank.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Hasan- ... arged.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
An interesting thing to read in that article...
Earlier this year, NBC 5 Investigates was the first to report that the Department of Defense showed Hasan had been paid about $300,000 after his arrest for the Nov. 5, 2009, shooting.

After the NBC 5 investigation aired, three U.S. Representatives have drafted legislation that would stop military payments to soldiers awaiting trial for major crimes. The money would be returned to the solider if they are acquitted but if they are found guilty the money would go to the victims.
I have no sympathy for that pig Hasan, and I wish he could get the worst of everything mentioned here on this thread. He deserves to live the rest of his life in agonizing pain - although I doubt that will happen in Leavenworth to the extent that most of us here would hope.

But removing ourselves from this case...I have to disagree with the proposed legislation mentioned in the paragraph above. Imagine if a young soldier with a family is arrested for (and later acquitted of) a major crime - should the family suffer and be completely destitute until the trial is over? Something doesn't feel right about that.

True, it would happen in the civilian world. You get arrested for something major and cannot work while in jail awaiting trial - you'll lose your income, and likely your job, even if you get acquitted. But the family of a service member picks up & moves around the world unexpectedly, severely limiting the long-term employment options of the average military wife. I've known plenty of them to hold down jobs, but the lifestyle of being a military family makes it more difficult to gainfully pursue a career that would allow them to become self-sustaining if this were to happen.

I welcome your thoughts...
I have to agree. If Pop had ever been arrested and his pay held while undergoing trial, my family would have been in rough shape. Even if we were living in base housing (no rent), there's still food, fuel, clothing, etc to consider.

If this legislation passes, it could have dire consequences for the family of the service member.
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