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can you carry a NFA firearm with a CHL in TX?

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So lets say I wanted to carry a pen gun (AOW) or a suppressor for some reason. Is this legal? I understand I cannot carry a SBR or SBS or anything of that nature. Just wondering how to find out whats legal?

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Unlike the concealed weapons permit in some states, the concealed handgun license in Texas covers only handguns. It does not apply to and is not needed to carry long guns or NFA firearms except a smooth bore pistol.
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If you legally own the NFA item and it is not a handgun under Texas law then you are legal to Carry it. If Texas law says it is a handgun then you need a CHL to carry it.
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My understanding is, if it requires NFA paperwork, Texas law does not touch it at all, except to say, "If it follows federal regulations, it's legal here." As I do not know of any federal law restricting the carriage of NFA weaponry, only ownership, I would have to conclude that if you legally own a fully-automatic weapon, an SBR or SBS, suppressor, or an AOW, you can then legally carry it in Texas in whatever fashion you choose, with or without a CHL.

Note, I am not a lawyer, nor do I attempt to claim full and unfettered knowledge of federal and/or Texas law. I may well be wrong in my interpretation. Even if I am right, I do not recommend carrying your Sten, PPsH, M-16, or Serbu Super Shorty (in tactical thigh rig) down the street in public, open view. You may win the court case, and the subsequent wrongful arrest civil suit. You may lose, and wind up in jail and poor. Either way, you'll probably eat pavement/dirt and get a nifty ride in a taxi with gumball lights and woo-woo box.

Nor can I proffer the ubiquitous trench-coat as an acceptable cover-garment (even though that is what would be required to hide those things), as we are speaking of Texas, and it gets downright hot! I can think of no better way to wind up with a "suspicious person" call, and then probably again dirt-toothpaste and woo-woo gumball taxi ride.

So... I -think- you can carry a properly registered NFA item any way you choose in Texas, BUT I don't recommend it. :biggrinjester:

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nfa items really have nothing to do with your chl.

You need to have your chl to carry concealed. If you want to have a suppresor,sbs,sbr,full auto,aow,destructive device you also need to carry your stamp tax paperwork. considering how big some of my supressors are im not sure what your wanting to carry with it attached. what did you have in mind?
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JeepGuy79 wrote:I understand I cannot carry a SBR or SBS or anything of that nature.
Why not? Assuming your possession is legal, there doesn't seem to be any Texas law prohibiting you from carrying a SBR or SBS concealed in a tennis racquet bag.

Or violin case. :lol:

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So you can carry the NFA weapon anywhere? Even in posted buildings and off limited zones like school or court?

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so if I can carry my mp5k with just my stamps why did I even get a chl? I shoulda saved that cash toward the operational briefcase.

I was thinking of snagging a micro can for my beretta .22 and maybe carrying it some. Couple days ago I was sitting on the back porch and a wild cat slaughtered a squirrel in my back yard and a friend of mine saw it happen and it kinda traumatized her. only thing I had within reach was a 1911 and I have neighbors. So I was just thinking about going on trail rides or walks around the neighborhood and wild animals. I dunno. Just wondering if I can carry a can if I like.
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JeepGuy79 wrote:so if I can carry my mp5k with just my stamps why did I even get a chl? I shoulda saved that cash toward the operational briefcase.

I was thinking of snagging a micro can for my beretta .22 and maybe carrying it some. Couple days ago I was sitting on the back porch and a wild cat slaughtered a squirrel in my back yard and a friend of mine saw it happen and it kinda traumatized her. only thing I had within reach was a 1911 and I have neighbors. So I was just thinking about going on trail rides or walks around the neighborhood and wild animals. I dunno. Just wondering if I can carry a can if I like.
If the wild animal is posing a threat of injury to you or another human you would be justified in shooting it with any pistol. No need for a can. However, shooting a wildcat that is killing another wild animal would not be justified and you would be in trouble for doing so unless you were legally hunting and the animal was in season.
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Ericstac wrote:So you can carry the NFA weapon anywhere? Even in posted buildings and off limited zones like school or court?
No. Texas law doesn't distinguish between NFA and NFA-firearms. If it's a handgun, you need a CHL to carry it regardless of whether it's an NFA firearm, and the usual CHL rules apply. Likewise, if it's a long gun, you don't need a license to carry - doesn't matter if it's NFA or not.
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TrueFlog wrote:
Ericstac wrote:So you can carry the NFA weapon anywhere? Even in posted buildings and off limited zones like school or court?
No. Texas law doesn't distinguish between NFA and NFA-firearms. If it's a handgun, you need a CHL to carry it regardless of whether it's an NFA firearm, and the usual CHL rules apply. Likewise, if it's a long gun, you don't need a license to carry - doesn't matter if it's NFA or not.
The operative word that is missing here is OPEN. You may Open Carry a long gun in Texas, no trench coats, dusters, ponchos, etc. over the weapon.
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Dadtodabone wrote:
TrueFlog wrote:
Ericstac wrote:So you can carry the NFA weapon anywhere? Even in posted buildings and off limited zones like school or court?
No. Texas law doesn't distinguish between NFA and NFA-firearms. If it's a handgun, you need a CHL to carry it regardless of whether it's an NFA firearm, and the usual CHL rules apply. Likewise, if it's a long gun, you don't need a license to carry - doesn't matter if it's NFA or not.
The operative word that is missing here is OPEN. You may Open Carry a long gun in Texas, no trench coats, dusters, ponchos, etc. over the weapon.
Do you have a reference on that? To my knowledge, there's nothing in the TPC that criminalizes concealed carry of a long arm.

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TrueFlog wrote:
Dadtodabone wrote:
TrueFlog wrote:
Ericstac wrote:So you can carry the NFA weapon anywhere? Even in posted buildings and off limited zones like school or court?
No. Texas law doesn't distinguish between NFA and NFA-firearms. If it's a handgun, you need a CHL to carry it regardless of whether it's an NFA firearm, and the usual CHL rules apply. Likewise, if it's a long gun, you don't need a license to carry - doesn't matter if it's NFA or not.
The operative word that is missing here is OPEN. You may Open Carry a long gun in Texas, no trench coats, dusters, ponchos, etc. over the weapon.
Do you have a reference on that? To my knowledge, there's nothing in the TPC that criminalizes concealed carry of a long arm.
I agree with TrueFlog here. I don't think the TPC says open or concealed with regards to long guns.

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like my glock 21 with my supressor. The glock you still need a chl to carry concealed.the supressor you need your stamp tax paper work.

I have a remington 700 and a supressor for it. If you can open carry a rifle openly all you need is your stamp tax paperwork for the supressor.

The supressor for my glock is as long as the gun itself. you might need a trench coat to conceal it fully assembled.your not going to be using some holster for it and how are you going to sit down with somthing thats a good 20 inches long stuffed down your pants that isnt flexable?
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aceat64 wrote:
TrueFlog wrote:
Dadtodabone wrote:
TrueFlog wrote:
Ericstac wrote:So you can carry the NFA weapon anywhere? Even in posted buildings and off limited zones like school or court?
No. Texas law doesn't distinguish between NFA and NFA-firearms. If it's a handgun, you need a CHL to carry it regardless of whether it's an NFA firearm, and the usual CHL rules apply. Likewise, if it's a long gun, you don't need a license to carry - doesn't matter if it's NFA or not.
The operative word that is missing here is OPEN. You may Open Carry a long gun in Texas, no trench coats, dusters, ponchos, etc. over the weapon.
Do you have a reference on that? To my knowledge, there's nothing in the TPC that criminalizes concealed carry of a long arm.
I agree with TrueFlog here. I don't think the TPC says open or concealed with regards to long guns.
I stand corrected, the concealed carry of a long gun is not mentioned in law, therefore it's legal. And actually less restricted than a handgun in were you can carry it.
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