Misunderstanding different signs

[Vic]

I was leaving a restaurant today at lunch. The gentleman ahead of me in line for the cashier engaged her with this conversation:

Man: See that sign right there? (indicating the blue TABC sign behind her)
Cashier: Yes
Man: That sign is illegal. It has to be in English and in Spanish.

I interrupted at this point and told him he was thinking of the 30.06 sign which is not the same as this TABC sign. He looks cross-eyed at me and says "Read the book!" and then walks out.

I guess it is impossible for some people to understand that there are different signs, with different rules, for different situations. I wonder what he thinks about the 51% sign or the Federal sign...

[texanron]

Obviously your new friend is not as smart as he thinks he is. I wonder what he was hoping to accomplish by telling the cashier, who probably could give a rats behind, about those signs.

[bayouhazard]

Why bother correcting him. The blue sign is a TABC matter, like the pregnancy sign they post in the men bathroom.

Seriously.

[nakedbike]

He might have been right.

found on http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/code/8 ... Titles.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; page 258

§ 411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES. (a) A business that has a
permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives
51 percent or more of its income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption as
determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage
Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the business premises a sign that complies with the
requirements of Subsection (c).
(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or a nursing home
licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the
hospital or nursing home, as appropriate, a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c)
other than the requirement that the sign include on its face the number "51".
(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give notice in both English and
Spanish that it is unlawful for a person licensed under this subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.
The sign must appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height and must include
on its face the number "51" printed in solid red at least five inches in height. The sign shall be displayed
in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

they do exist.


IANAL

[bayouhazard]

The blue sign is not for 51%.

Read the book!

[RoyGBiv]

The blue sign is not for 51%.

Read the book!

Beat me to it...

[RoyGBiv]

EDIT: Woo.. too big..

Valid words but invalid letter size (therefore invalid sign) 30.06 and Blue TABC




Vs.

Red 51% TABC

[Keith B]

He might have been right.

found on http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/code/8 ... Titles.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; page 258

§ 411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES. (a) A business that has a
permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives
51 percent or more of its income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption as
determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage
Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the business premises a sign that complies with the
requirements of Subsection (c).
(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or a nursing home
licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the
hospital or nursing home, as appropriate, a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c)
other than the requirement that the sign include on its face the number "51".
(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give notice in both English and
Spanish that it is unlawful for a person licensed under this subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.
The sign must appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height and must include
on its face the number "51" printed in solid red at least five inches in height. The sign shall be displayed
in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

they do exist.

IANAL

Interesting. There are apparently different guidelines in effect on this. The Retailers Guide and the Administrative rules state that the Commission or Administrator may require the sign to be in a language other than English if the majority of the patrons to the establishment speak a different language. So, I would assume that if you went to a Russian restaurant and the predominance of the patrons were Russian, then they might require it posted in that language.

[MoJo]

Believe it or not, I have had people argue with me during a CHL class when the relevant statute is projected on the screen! There was a KIA (know it all) in my Instructor class that took up a lot of time arguing with the teacher. Don't bother them with facts their minds are already made up!

[magillapd]

EDIT: Woo.. too big..

Valid words but invalid letter size (therefore invalid sign) 30.06 and Blue TABC




Vs.

Red 51% TABC

Where was the 30.06 sign posted at?

[RoyGBiv]

Where was the 30.06 sign posted at?

Dunno.... Just an example I found in another thread or on the web...
Looks like somebody just printed it on their printer from the DPS web site.