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IMO, the big man upstairs speaks to us all in ways that we sometimes can, or can't understand. Just as a 30.06 sign is His way of telling ME that I need to frequent another place of business, this may be His way of telling YOU to find a new church.This may sound like a silly reason to change churches, but for me, this is an infringement that I am not willing to put up with.
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Good call. Some talking points to consider:Hoi Polloi wrote:I would pray for guidance.
If you are led to stay, I would then prayerfully and respectfully ask for a private meeting with the pastor about "a difficulty" you've been facing. I wouldn't say what for so he doesn't make up his mind before speaking with you. Then I'd politely lay out what you know and why this is a problem for you. Then I'd make a decision on how to move forward.
An old quote says (and I'm paraphrasing) that gun control is not about guns--it's about control. I think that's what we may be seeing here based on what you've written. It sounds as if a small group of people in the congregation wish to strip the rights of others to exalt their own position; not right.retrieverman wrote:His intention is to prohibit CHL holders from carrying on church property, and unfortunately, he has at least some support from our pastor who was at Wedgewood in Ft Worth when the shooting occurred there. The problem with this plan is that, of the 5 or 6 LEO's in our church, none are regular attenders, and there are some times that there are NONE there (including the organizer).
Ironically, my pastor texted me on Thursday wanting me to take him hog hunting, and he will definitely listen to my concerns. No offense to anyone on this board, but he is a yankee from New Jersey (and I do call him this to his face), and he doesn't always understand the "ways" of country folks.Hoi Polloi wrote: If you are led to stay, I would then prayerfully and respectfully ask for a private meeting with the pastor about "a difficulty" you've been facing. I wouldn't say what for so he doesn't make up his mind before speaking with you. Then I'd politely lay out what you know and why this is a problem for you. Then I'd make a decision on how to move forward.
Sounds like some egotistical cops on a power trip who think they should be the only ones to carry firearms.retrieverman wrote:I have been a member of the same church since the late 70's and am very happy there, but there is a member who is trying to organize a "LE only" security team. His intention is to prohibit CHL holders from carrying on church property, and unfortunately, he has at least some support from our pastor who was at Wedgewood in Ft Worth when the shooting occurred there. The problem with this plan is that, of the 5 or 6 LEO's in our church, none are regular attenders, and there are some times that there are NONE there (including the organizer).
I serve in several capacities and, as I said before, am very happy at this church, but I won't stay there if I can't carry. This may sound like a silly reason to change churches, but for me, this is an infringement that I am not willing to put up with.
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My parents and several of my friends have been to Gateway and love ya'lls church. Thanks for the invite!Mr.ViperBoa wrote: Sounds like some egotistical cops on a power trip who think they should be the only ones to carry firearms.
Come to Gateway. We will welcome you.
Great response!Texas Dan Mosby wrote:IMO, the big man upstairs speaks to us all in ways that we sometimes can, or can't understand. Just as a 30.06 sign is His way of telling ME that I need to frequent another place of business, this may be His way of telling YOU to find a new church.This may sound like a silly reason to change churches, but for me, this is an infringement that I am not willing to put up with.
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Do what you think is best.
The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.retrieverman wrote:I have been a member of the same church since the late 70's and am very happy there, but there is a member who is trying to organize a "LE only" security team. His intention is to prohibit CHL holders from carrying on church property,
Amen, brother! He certainly would not understand what Jesus said about protecting oneself or others. See below.jmra wrote:If your pastor has already experienced a church shooting and is still entertaining the idea of 30.06 posting then IMHO he doesn't have a clue and is a lost cause. I could never attend a church or be pastored by some one who wanted to put a bulls eye on my family's back.
