Desired CHL Reform

[Zoomie]

Of course, anyone under the age of 21 can't own/possess a handgun anyway,

In the spirit of providing precise information, individuals 18 and over can own and posses a handgun, they just can't buy it from a dealer.

There's also the military exception that allows me to legally carry my own handgun even though I am not yet 21.

What I find ridiculous is that I can walk into a Walmart with a loaded handgun on my hip, but cannot purchase ammo for the same gun.

Finally I would like to see at least military members allowed to carry on military bases, though I realize it is not a state issue.

[sjfcontrol]

2. Campus Carry. I would like to see this start with colleges/universities, but extend in later sessions to include pre-k through 12 schools (public and private).

Wow! Packing Pre-Schoolers!! (Least they wouldn't get busted for pointing a "finger" gun anymore!)

I completely agree with Venus Pax on this one. And, while I'm sure sjfcontrol is just kidding, "packing pre-schoolers" is exactly the kind of infantile rebuttal we're likely to hear from the antis. Of course, anyone under the age of 21 can't own/possess a handgun anyway, but as soon as this bill passes they'll all be legally carrying handguns to school somehow

So, Mr. AustinRealtor -- Are you calling me Infantile? I have just one thing to say about that! Pull My Finger!

[Ol Zeke]

I'm so glad I posted this thread!

I'm getting some really good ideas for the next Zeke "Rant"

[A-R]

So, Mr. AustinRealtor -- Are you calling me Infantile? I have just one thing to say about that! Pull My Finger!

No, I'll keep my booger hook off your "bang switch", thanks



(and no, I wasn't calling you infantile - unless you were serious about "packing pre-schoolers")

[A-R]

Of course, anyone under the age of 21 can't own/possess a handgun anyway,

In the spirit of providing precise information, individuals 18 and over can own and posses a handgun, they just can't buy it from a dealer.

There's also the military exception that allows me to legally carry my own handgun even though I am not yet 21.

What I find ridiculous is that I can walk into a Walmart with a loaded handgun on my hip, but cannot purchase ammo for the same gun.

Thanks for the clarification.

By the way, what kind of handgun is on your hip that you can't purchase ammo for it at Wal Mart? All the Wally World's around me sell most standard handgun ammo - of course, they don't always have it in stock, but that seems more a private business inventory problem than a legislative issue.

[Teamless]

what kind of handgun is on your hip that you can't

it seems it's an age thing, rather than ammo type thing

There's also the military exception that allows me to legally carry my own handgun even though I am not yet 21.

[sjfcontrol]

So, Mr. AustinRealtor -- Are you calling me Infantile? I have just one thing to say about that! Pull My Finger!

No, I'll keep my booger hook off your "bang switch", thanks



(and no, I wasn't calling you infantile - unless you were serious about "packing pre-schoolers")

Ah, no, not serious at all, but I did make a slight mistake -- it should have been "pistol-packin pre-schoolers". A better alliterative phrase.

[UpTheIrons]

This is a great thread.

4. Simplify the renewal process. Do people really need to get fingerprinted again? Do fingerprints change? As for the picture, I haven't taken a new driver's license picture since I was 22. And I can assure you that the new picture would look quite different.
Personally, I think that walking into a DPS office and renewing every five or ten years and paying a small fee (someone mentioned $25) would be acceptable.

This part is already happening. Well, some of it anyway.
Renewal changes came up here:
http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33502" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And the "online application" stuff was discussed here:
http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33430" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I never saw the point of repeated fingerprintings either, and after reading this month's Texas Monthly article on Forensic Science, I wonder if they really even help, or hurt.

[Zoomie]

what kind of handgun is on your hip that you can't

it seems it's an age thing, rather than ammo type thing

There's also the military exception that allows me to legally carry my own handgun even though I am not yet 21.

Exactly, Walmart carries plenty of .40, but legally I can't purchase it because of my age (or lack there of).

[Teamless]

Exactly, Walmart carries plenty of .40, but legally I can't purchase it because of my age (or lack there of).

I assume then, it is like buying beer for a minor, someone 21+ cannot buy you ammo either? Or is that allowed (if it is not a parent/guardian)?
I am asking, as I do not know, but if it is legal, I am sure someone on this forum is near you and that could be arranged --- again, only if it is not illegal.

[chabouk]

Exactly, Walmart carries plenty of .40, but legally I can't purchase it because of my age (or lack there of).

I assume then, it is like buying beer for a minor, someone 21+ cannot buy you ammo either?

Just like with his pistol, it's only illegal (under federal law, not state) for a dealer to sell it to him, not for him to have it nor for anyone else to buy it for him.

[HighHandicap]

what kind of handgun is on your hip that you can't

it seems it's an age thing, rather than ammo type thing

There's also the military exception that allows me to legally carry my own handgun even though I am not yet 21.

Exactly, Walmart carries plenty of .40, but legally I can't purchase it because of my age (or lack there of).

Most of the Walmarts around Austin don't seem to carry any handgun ammo. If the do, then it is very well hidden. Heck the only one in the area that carries firearms is in Cedar Park and even then it's only shotguns and rifles.

[Keith B]

what kind of handgun is on your hip that you can't

it seems it's an age thing, rather than ammo type thing

There's also the military exception that allows me to legally carry my own handgun even though I am not yet 21.

Exactly, Walmart carries plenty of .40, but legally I can't purchase it because of my age (or lack there of).

Most of the Walmarts around Austin don't seem to carry any handgun ammo. If the do, then it is very well hidden. Heck the only one in the area that carries firearms is in Cedar Park and even then it's only shotguns and rifles.

Wal-Mart quit carrying handguns quite a few years ago.

[TEX]

Employer parking lot carry

College campus carry

Elimination of restriction on profession sporting events, except for soccer - they can get nuts : )

Inclusion of prohibited weapons under CHL (would not be that hard to do – one short paragraph)

Two tier CHL – hear me out. Basic CHL which is what we have now and an enhanced CHL that would allow you to carry pretty much anywhere a LEO would carry. It would involve extra training, harder practical test, more in depth background check, etc.

Elimination of sales tax on firearms, ammunition, range fees and range memberships, firearms training, holsters, reloading equipment, etc. They made it illegal to tax your right to vote (poll tax), why are we still being taxed on our right to keep and bear arms?

Range protection act. If it was there first, no one should be able to run it out of business with bullsh*t lawsuits, etc. unless they can PROVE a clear and present danger. Don’t want to live near a range, then don’t build or buy next to one – dummy!


Oh ya - also elimination of all sales tax and property taxes for anyone who is a life member of TSRA - Guess I went a little too far with that one. Still like it though!

TEX

[chabouk]

Two tier CHL – hear me out. Basic CHL which is what we have now and an enhanced CHL that would allow you to carry pretty much anywhere a LEO would carry. It would involve extra training, harder practical test, more in depth background check, etc.

Other than a timed reload, the TCLEOSE standard for Texas peace officer firearms qualification is pretty much like the CHL test. It's minimal, at best.

Of course, some agencies impose their own, higher, standards. But the state standard just isn't very hard.

Texas Administrative Code 217.21:
(c) The minimum standards for the annual firearms proficiency course of fire shall be:
(1) handguns - a minimum of 50 rounds, including at least five rounds of duty ammunition, fired at ranges from point-blank to at least 15 yards with at least 20 rounds at or beyond seven yards, including at least one timed reload;
....
(d) The minimum passing percentage shall be 70 for each firearm.