Procedure at the state capitol
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Re: Procedure at the state capitol
Lt Gov Dewhurst voted to do this. I guess I'll just have to vote against him for re-election & when he runs for Senator in 2012
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Re: Capitol to install Metal Detectors. Gov. notes NO
CHL's will be allowed to enter and DPS will be adopting appropriate procedures to all us to do so. As Keith pointed out, CHL's cannot be excluded as a matter of law.ErnieP wrote:The Capitol will soon become a "crime welcome" location with the adoption today of a new policy to quickly install metal detectors. Here is a link to the Austin-American Statesman article:
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/ ... kayed.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
While not stated, I strongly suspect there is no CHL exemption.....
Guess I will not be visiting Our Capitol again.....ugh........
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Link to members of the board that voted for this:
http://www.tspb.state.tx.us/spb/spb/Boa ... ardMem.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The thought of metal detectors and xray machines at my state capital makes me ill.
http://www.tspb.state.tx.us/spb/spb/Boa ... ardMem.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The thought of metal detectors and xray machines at my state capital makes me ill.
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That link doesn't quite work. I understand that Perry was the only one to vote against it. I wonder if (assuming there are CHL holders in the state rep and senators) they will continue to carry anyways. Reminds me of when they voted to require two license plates on every vehicle, and then John Kelso video taped half the officials vehicles leaving the capitol grounds, lacking a front plate. Darned hypocrites!gemini wrote:Link to members of the board that voted for this:
http://www.tspb.state.tx.us/spb/spb/Boa ... ardMem.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The thought of metal detectors and xray machines at my state capital makes me ill.
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Re: Capitol to install Metal Detectors. Gov. notes NO
Keith B wrote:Per state law there cannot be a CHL exemption unless the legislature is in session and posted 30.06. So, they will have to provide a method for a CHL'er to carry past the metal detectors.ErnieP wrote:While not stated, I strongly suspect there is no CHL exemption.....
Thanks Keith and Charles ...Charles L. Cotton wrote: CHL's will be allowed to enter and DPS will be adopting appropriate procedures to all us to do so. As Keith pointed out, CHL's cannot be excluded as a matter of law.
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X-Ray machines too ... So I guess they will ... X-ray machines even pick up those "Ceramic Glocks"
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hmmm... the link works for me. Anybody else having a problem with the posted link?PvilleStang wrote:That link doesn't quite work. I understand that Perry was the only one to vote against it. I wonder if (assuming there are CHL holders in the state rep and senators) they will continue to carry anyways. Reminds me of when they voted to require two license plates on every vehicle, and then John Kelso video taped half the officials vehicles leaving the capitol grounds, lacking a front plate. Darned hypocrites!gemini wrote:Link to members of the board that voted for this:
http://www.tspb.state.tx.us/spb/spb/Boa ... ardMem.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The thought of metal detectors and xray machines at my state capital makes me ill.
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Re: Procedure at the state capitol
Lt. Gov. Dewhurst has been instrumental in passage of many of the pro-gun bills in the Senate since his election. He was also a key player in getting the campus-carry bill to the floor for a vote in the Senate.Wrightwing wrote:Lt Gov Dewhurst voted to do this. I guess I'll just have to vote against him for re-election & when he runs for Senator in 2012
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Re: Capitol to install Metal Detectors. Gov. notes NO
Great news!Charles L. Cotton wrote: CHL's will be allowed to enter and DPS will be adopting appropriate procedures to all us to do so. As Keith pointed out, CHL's cannot be excluded as a matter of law.
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Re: Capitol to install Metal Detectors. Gov. notes NO
Appropriate??? What does that mean? Will I have to present 'papers' to enter my State Capitol? I can't walk in with my kids?Charles L. Cotton wrote:CHL's will be allowed to enter and DPS will be adopting appropriate procedures to all us to do so. As Keith pointed out, CHL's cannot be excluded as a matter of law.ErnieP wrote:The Capitol will soon become a "crime welcome" location with the adoption today of a new policy to quickly install metal detectors. Here is a link to the Austin-American Statesman article:
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/ ... kayed.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
While not stated, I strongly suspect there is no CHL exemption.....
Guess I will not be visiting Our Capitol again.....ugh........
Chas.
This is not "Great News" at all. This is setting a precedent and it will be happening all over the state.
Dewhurst: "...I don’t think that the public are going to mind one bit...”
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I guess the April 17th 2nd Amendment rally at the State Capitol is timed perfectly, then!
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Re: Procedure at the state capitol
I've never set foot in the capitol building. But it's my house, darnit, and I should be able to go there whenever I want, carrying/wearing/doing/whatever, so long as doing so would be legal while walking down Congress Avenue. Or Sixth Street, for that matter!
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Re: Capitol to install Metal Detectors. Gov. notes NO
No Herr 06nop, you von't haf to show yer papers. The detailed procedures have not been set, but I expect it to be much like the Harris County Courthouses where I just show my FVC card (a/k/a frequent flier card) and walk around the metal detectors.O6nop wrote:Appropriate??? What does that mean? Will I have to present 'papers' to enter my State Capitol?Charles L. Cotton wrote:CHL's will be allowed to enter and DPS will be adopting appropriate procedures to all us to do so. As Keith pointed out, CHL's cannot be excluded as a matter of law.ErnieP wrote:The Capitol will soon become a "crime welcome" location with the adoption today of a new policy to quickly install metal detectors. Here is a link to the Austin-American Statesman article:
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/ ... kayed.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
While not stated, I strongly suspect there is no CHL exemption.....
Guess I will not be visiting Our Capitol again.....ugh........
Chas.
Why not?06nop wrote:I can't walk in with my kids?
I didn't say metal detectors at the Capitol was "great news," I was answering a question about whether armed CHL's would be excluded from the Capitol. RHINRIKSEN wasn't saying metal detectors at the Capitol was good news; he said it was good news that armed CHL's would not be barred from the Capitol.06nop wrote:This is not "Great News" at all. This is setting a precedent and it will be happening all over the state.
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Charles L. Cotton wrote: No Herr 06nop, you von't haf to show yer papers. The detailed procedures have not been set, but I expect it to be much like the Harris County Courthouses where I just show my FVC card (a/k/a frequent flier card) and walk around the metal detectors.
Tongue in cheek, I hope!
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I didn't say metal detectors at the Capitol was "great news," I was answering a question about whether armed CHL's would be excluded from the Capitol. RHINRIKSEN wasn't saying metal detectors at the Capitol was good news; he said it was good news that armed CHL's would not be barred from the Capitol.
They never were! Where's the Great News?
ETA: I was referring to RHINRIKSEN's statement, Charles. I didn't see where you might have inferred it was "great news" Sorry
Charles L. Cotton wrote:06nop wrote:
I can't walk in with my kids?Why not?
Sounds like separate entrances for CHLers from the sound of it, and since NO procedure is in place, who knows what might happen.
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I believe there is safety in numbers..
numbers like: 9, .22, .38, .357, .45, .223, 5.56, 7.62, 6.5, .30-06...
numbers like: 9, .22, .38, .357, .45, .223, 5.56, 7.62, 6.5, .30-06...
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Except if there is NO procedure in place by then, CHLers will not be able to go into the Capitol building. And from the sound of it, there will be CHLers there.Kythas wrote:I guess the April 17th 2nd Amendment rally at the State Capitol is timed perfectly, then!
I believe there is safety in numbers..
numbers like: 9, .22, .38, .357, .45, .223, 5.56, 7.62, 6.5, .30-06...
numbers like: 9, .22, .38, .357, .45, .223, 5.56, 7.62, 6.5, .30-06...
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There will more than likely not be metal detectors in place by the 17th since the article says within the next 45 days. And, let's face it, all that is required is to show your CHL to the person at the metal detector, and be allowed to walk around the unit, or even pass through and they ignore the beep. It ain't that hard to do.O6nop wrote:Except if there is NO procedure in place by then, CHLers will not be able to go into the Capitol building. And from the sound of it, there will be CHLers there.Kythas wrote:I guess the April 17th 2nd Amendment rally at the State Capitol is timed perfectly, then!
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