Oldgringo wrote:This is true. You can be arrested for anything at any time; however, making the charges stick is another matter. In the course of regaining your freedom, weapon, CHL, place in the community, employment, etc., etc.,...well, er, , uh you know the rest.45 4 life wrote:...you could be arrested, weapons confiscated, and permit suspended.
One mo' time, why risk it? If you're going out drinkin', leave the iron at home.
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There's no limit to the number of guns you're allowed to conceal either. That's different than the limit being zero.45 4 life wrote:However he pointed to a question on the written test (true or false) that basically states that there is no legal limit, the answer is ofcourse true, there ins'nt.
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I know it's hyperbole, but that's stupid; you can have more alcohol than that in your blood without ever having a drink in your life. Studies show that blood alcohol can get up to .0016 just from fermentation by bacteria in the gut. That's not to mention you can't measure that low without special laboratory techniques; a handheld machine is never going to be able to detect that.45 4 life wrote:This is what I have always understood, but this guy actually wrote on the dry erase board "0.0001 and the officer can take you down"USA1 wrote:Far as I know, this is the correct answer..
"Carrying" while drinking is not prohibited, but it is a criminal offense to carry while intoxicated.
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No you did not miss anything, other than a competent CHL instructor. Some else posted the statues, so I won't duplicate that, but it is also explicitly answered in the Q&A on the DPS site45 4 life wrote:There has been allot of talk on here about drinking while carrying. I have just finished my renewal class and was told by the instructor that there is a new law that just went into effect that clearly defines the legal limit of 0.00 while a CHL is carrying.
Is this something that I have missed?
"Q: Can I carry a handgun if I am drinking alcohol?
A: "Carrying" while drinking is not prohibited, but it is a criminal
offense to carry while intoxicated.
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Drunks shouldn't carry guns any more than drunks should drive.
But note that unless you're driving, there is NO requirement for you to submit to a breathalyzer or field sobriety test, either.
But note that unless you're driving, there is NO requirement for you to submit to a breathalyzer or field sobriety test, either.
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Concur. My instructor said the same thing. He is a former cop and went on to say if you have been drinking and there is a gun in the car even if it is locked in the trunk he knows a lot of officers that will take you in and let the judge decide if you put it there before or after you started drinking. At the end of the day it is just not worth the trouble.Oldgringo wrote:This is true. You can be arrested for anything at any time; however, making the charges stick is another matter. In the course of regaining your freedom, weapon, CHL, place in the community, employment, etc., etc.,...well, er, , uh you know the rest.45 4 life wrote:...you could be arrested, weapons confiscated, and permit suspended.
One mo' time, why risk it? If you're going out drinkin', leave the iron at home.
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That's true whether the drunk is a plumber, a Senator, a doctor, a peace officer, etc.HankB wrote:Drunks shouldn't carry guns any more than drunks should drive.
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Funny thing is, as my instructor explained to me:
If you don't have a CHL and your carrying in your vehicle, the limit is .08. If you do have a CHL, there is no limit! Thanks to the motor vehicle protection act non-chl carries can legally carry one place we can't: in their car with any alcohol in their system.
If you don't have a CHL and your carrying in your vehicle, the limit is .08. If you do have a CHL, there is no limit! Thanks to the motor vehicle protection act non-chl carries can legally carry one place we can't: in their car with any alcohol in their system.
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Regardless of the law, it is really not a great idea to be drinking while carrying a firearm any more than it is a good idea to be hunting while drinking.
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Two words....Ted Kennedy!boomerang wrote:That's true whether the drunk .... a Senator.HankB wrote:Drunks shouldn't carry guns any more than drunks should drive.
Sorry...I couldn't resist it.
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hirundo82 wrote:I know it's hyperbole, but that's stupid; you can have more alcohol than that in your blood without ever having a drink in your life. Studies show that blood alcohol can get up to .0016 just from fermentation by bacteria in the gut. That's not to mention you can't measure that low without special laboratory techniques; a handheld machine is never going to be able to detect that.45 4 life wrote:This is what I have always understood, but this guy actually wrote on the dry erase board "0.0001 and the officer can take you down"USA1 wrote:Far as I know, this is the correct answer..
"Carrying" while drinking is not prohibited, but it is a criminal offense to carry while intoxicated.
True but your body is not going to detoxify (read breathe off) at those levels unless you are acidic to begin with (COPD, diabetic, Atkins dieter).
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Oh great, now I can't carry while dieting on the Atkins diet. Geez, I ain't ever gona lose weight now!
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Haven't they determined that the Atkins diet is bad for your heart? Try the exercise and eat less food diet...LOL...works every time.gwashorn wrote:Oh great, now I can't carry while dieting on the Atkins diet. Geez, I ain't ever gona lose weight now!
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I already exercise, lift weights and play tennis for 8 hours a week AND I have a bad heart with 100% blocked main artery. Can't go anywhere but up from that!
But seriously, I always worry, I am out with friends and last minute decision we go for a dinner with friends and at most I only have one glass of wine with a meal. I am not drinker per se and I worry because I am carring. Now granted I would leave my weapon in my car but that does not relieve me of the carry part of the law. It only lessens my chance of being outed. So I don't even have the glass. That is where I have issues.
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But seriously, I always worry, I am out with friends and last minute decision we go for a dinner with friends and at most I only have one glass of wine with a meal. I am not drinker per se and I worry because I am carring. Now granted I would leave my weapon in my car but that does not relieve me of the carry part of the law. It only lessens my chance of being outed. So I don't even have the glass. That is where I have issues.
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You know what they say...the only thing worse than an ex smoker is an ex fat man... I am both. I am actually still working on the fat man part.gwashorn wrote:I already exercise, lift weights and play tennis for 8 hours a week AND I have a bad heart with 100% blocked main artery. Can't go anywhere but up from that!
But seriously, I always worry, I am out with friends and last minute decision we go for a dinner with friends and at most I only have one glass of wine with a meal. I am not drinker per se and I worry because I am carring. Now granted I would leave my weapon in my car but that does not relieve me of the carry part of the law. It only lessens my chance of being outed. So I don't even have the glass. That is where I have issues.
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I am a bit paranoid about drinking while carrying. My worst nightmare would be having to use the weapon and then trying to explain that I was not intoxicated when my stray bullet hit an innocent by stander. For me it is really no big deal passing up on a over priced drink while eating out. I can make all the drinks I want at home for a third of the price.
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