LongHairedRedneck wrote:I know how to make it un-poopular if they try that around my house
Is that a reference to what the bad guy is going to do in his britches once he faces what's coming after opening your front door uninvited-like? Wouldn't the correct terminology be de-poopular?
(I kill myself...)
Familyman1993 wrote:Part of me feels that the direction this country is going towards after the election of Obama “The Anointed One” we are going to see a steady rise of these and other crimes.
Lord knows I can't stand the guy, but this is not Obama's fault. It is the fault of a society that has been coarsening and straying from conservative values and principles for a long, long time. Obama has been president for less than a year. Home invasion robberies have been on the rise for the past 5 or 10 years... ...or longer even.
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From the apartment name, it sounds like the thugs were targeting students. Seems like home invasions of students homes are in vogue nowdays, like someone on another thread said.
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The home invasion is the scariest crime there is, IMO. I could be sitting here, typing away innocently on the forum, some guys come in waving weapons and I can tell you right now, I could never get out from under my lap top fast enough to get them first.
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe."
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LongHairedRedneck wrote:I know how to make it un-poopular if they try that around my house
Is that a reference to what the bad guy is going to do in his britches once he faces what's coming after opening your front door uninvited-like? Wouldn't the correct terminology be de-poopular?
(I kill myself...)
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Didn't see that mistake, but a a funny one. Think I'll leave it.
81aggie wrote:This is one of the reasons I decided to go ahead and get my CHL, not that I'd need it to carry in my house. I live in a nice area of town, but we've had an increase in burglaries and people who don't live here wandering around the neighborhood. There was a guy who tried getting into a house a few days ago while the owner was home (unsuccessful, ran off and not found yet) and a couple of burglaries while people were out in their yards. These criminals are getting brazen and I just think for my and my family's sake I need to do what I can to get an advantage.
You need to re-think carrying in your house. If someone busts through your door, you won't have it when you need it unless it's on your body.
81aggie wrote:This is one of the reasons I decided to go ahead and get my CHL, not that I'd need it to carry in my house. I live in a nice area of town, but we've had an increase in burglaries and people who don't live here wandering around the neighborhood. There was a guy who tried getting into a house a few days ago while the owner was home (unsuccessful, ran off and not found yet) and a couple of burglaries while people were out in their yards. These criminals are getting brazen and I just think for my and my family's sake I need to do what I can to get an advantage.
You need to re-think carrying in your house. If someone busts through your door, you won't have it when you need it unless it's on your body.
Also, the 'nice area of town' most likely has the nicest goodies inside the houses.
Don't think there's too many 52" Plasma TV's, high end PC's, or high-dollar jewelry in the bad areas of town...
It also has a lot more unprepared people of the 'It could never happen here, this is a nice area of town' mindset. When you live in a bad area of town, you keep your doors locked, look over your shoulder more, and probably have gates and bars on windows... nicer areas of town don't have those, as a sign of 'class', which makes them even more vulnerable.
There's a reason police need swat teams & body armor to serve warrants at houses in the 'bad areas' of town. In the good areas, they just knock and people generally open their doors without looking who it is.
AndyC wrote:Apart from the frame, armor the bottom edge of your doors. I'm a skinny guy and have easily kicked in doors by a backwards kick to the bottom edge - the leverage is enormous and usually blows the lock right out.
If you can't manage that, there are some bar-and-socket type products available that vastly exceed the strength of even good residential deadbolts, and since they transfer most of the force to the floor, the frame should take a lot less beating as well.
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Some people's kids !!
They've gotta' get their dope money from some where. ( I heard or read some where, A crack head will kill his own mother, for a fix )
Look around ... I wonder just how many people around us are doped out.
The Cartels aren't bringing this crap across tha' boarder, for nothing.
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Most of the people that our family knows don't have much portable wealth just laying around. Maybe a computer, a TV, and a set of dinged up golf clubs. Portable wealth is in a 401k, gun safe, or safety deposit box.
Forceful entry into an occupied home is like betting a busted flush into a full house.
It coundn't be just for profit. There must be a thrill or rush involved. Or desperation.
saltydog wrote:Most of the people that our family knows don't have much portable wealth just laying around. Maybe a computer, a TV, and a set of dinged up golf clubs. Portable wealth is in a 401k, gun safe, or safety deposit box.
A computer, maybe a laptop, DVD player, guitar, Playstation, Wii, whatever, is still a lot more than they can expect from a street robbery or car smash-and-grab. With most people using debit cards these days, $50-100 would be a pretty good haul for jumping somebody on the street, and potentially armed victims are less likely to be caught off-guard on the street than in their own homes. Add to that the popularity of hitting college apartments, (most college students are unarmed, usually have all of the above, and haven't bothered to write down the serial numbers) and it's a pretty easy choice.
Burglary can be profitable. But, forceful entry on an OCCUPIED residence boggles the mind. Potential cost vs. potential benefit, from a monetary view, of a Home Invasion does not make sense.
A frightened parent and homeowner, I think, would be a more formidable advissary than an understaffed Distric Attorney's Office.
Strictly from a profit motive, I don't get Home Invasions. Gotta be something else that motivates the invaders. I imagine these folks are self-centered and looking out for their own welfare. They might not be smart, but, they ain't dumb.
it amazes me how many CHL holders openly admit to dis-arming and "storing" their weapons as soon as they return home for the evening..... oh, but there is a firearm available in the biometric safe that's accessable in seconds - if you happen to be in that particular room when/if a crisis developes. My opinions and methods probably vary considerably from many on this forum, but I have always taken the responsibility of protecting my home, myself, very seriously. That requires a self defense weapon of some type to be very accessable at all times
Consider how we all sit in front of our computers, or at the range or gun shop, and discuss situational awareness, and how little reaction time may be available to assess a potential threat, make the right decision, and follow up with the proper action. This is normally around 2-3 seconds if I have mentally processed all the information floating around for the last several years. In the case of a home invasion you may add another couple of seconds of preparation time if the first alert you have is the sound of the back, or front door crashing in. That's my take on the normal home invasion anyway. Personally, I can't clear the LazyBoy in 2-3 seconds, although I'm normally in my office, in front of a computer following gun talk most of my leisure time anyway. The point is, these events go down fast, and I mean real fast.
o.k..... enough of my rambling
surv
oh, one last thought:
If you got 'em, wear 'em...if you don't (got 'em), get 'em.... and WEAR 'EM!
It's not gun control that we need, it's soul control!
(I kill myself...)
Didn't see that mistake, but a a funny one. Think I'll leave it.