Hi everyone,
I am new to this board, but have read many of the posts here, especially on the legislative session in progress. Anyway, I am looking to get some opinions on a issue I am facing. I recently went to a state park, that had multiple "no firearms allowed" signs posted. None of them 30.06 compliant, and even if they did post, it would not be enforceable because it is owned/leased by the state. They seem to have no legal right to prohibit concealed carry with a CHL, except they have field trips for school children there. Would this constitute them as an educational institution under 46.03 (below), when they do not have a field trip in progress. Also if there is a field trip in progress does this mean the entire park is off limits?
All comments are appreciated.
PC 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits
an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses
or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon
listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution,
any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or
educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation
vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or
educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written
regulations or written authorization of the institution;
Concealed Carry at State Parks
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Re: Concealed Carry at State Parks
No and No.
As long as you are not part of the field trip group itself, such as a parent helping escort the kids. This same situation could occur in zoos, aquariums, museums, etc., and all those would not make the whole building a CHL prohibited area because of it.
That's how I treat it and I believe it to be a widely held view.....ie, IANAL.
As long as you are not part of the field trip group itself, such as a parent helping escort the kids. This same situation could occur in zoos, aquariums, museums, etc., and all those would not make the whole building a CHL prohibited area because of it.
That's how I treat it and I believe it to be a widely held view.....ie, IANAL.
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Re: Concealed Carry at State Parks
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense, and calmed down my paranoia.
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Re: Concealed Carry at State Parks
I don't understand why a 30.06 sign wouldn't apply to property owned by the State of Texas
Re: Concealed Carry at State Parks
Sec. 30.06.(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.Doug.38PR wrote:I don't understand why a 30.06 sign wouldn't apply to property owned by the State of Texas
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Re: Concealed Carry at State Parks
What about some place like Eisenhower State Park on Lake Texhoma which is a Corp of Engineers Lake. Which law do you follow then?
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Re: Concealed Carry at State Parks
Property owned by the State of Texas is OUR property. The citizens of Texas decided, through OUR legislators, that properly licensed, responsible, tax-paying citizens can carry concealed weapons. No state agency, local government, or bureaucrat can make a rule restricting that privilege, except as specified in the law. 30.06 signs are for private property.Doug.38PR wrote:I don't understand why a 30.06 sign wouldn't apply to property owned by the State of Texas.