Open Carry In The News

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mr.72
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Re: Open Carry In The News

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This topic comes up so often, it needs to be in some kind of sticky FAQ. Everyone seems to be rehashing the old ideas, varied as they might be.

My observation over the past month or two on this forum is that many of the people here have only recently applied for or acquired a CHL, and may be still in the stage (as I am) of becoming educated or illuminated as to the whole "gun control" and "gun laws" culture and idealism. Perhaps at this time, many of the participants on this forum are enthusiastic about their newly-formed opinions and have not been around long enough to have heard them echoed by numerous other people over and over.

I am continuously perplexed about the laws regarding CHL in TX... they don't make any sense. I think this debate is largely fueled by the confusing and contradictory laws on the books. Many of us just see that there is a far simpler way to deal with this. But the same is true for nearly everything. Simple never seems to work out in the legislature on the state or federal level. IMHO the whole CHL law and process in TX needs to be tossed out and redone. There is no shame in realizing that you have to throw together your best first draft, and sometimes after trying it for a while, you have to chunk it and redo the whole thing since you have learned a lot of lessons on how to do it better. But it seems lawmakers are immune to this logic.
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Re: Open Carry In The News

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I'm not against Open Carry, I think it would serve as a deterrent, Crackhead thugs would know that the Battlefield is equal.
My Question is, Wouldn't an Open Carry Law cause Business owners to Post the Legal No gun signs?, I'm sure Business owners would be thinking about the concerns of their customers who would Probably Protest someone walking in the Store with a weapon. People way of thinking, they wouldn't be ready for that.

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Re: Open Carry In The News

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Texan wrote:I'm not against Open Carry, I think it would serve as a deterrent, Crackhead thugs would know that the Battlefield is equal.
My Question is, Wouldn't an Open Carry Law cause Business owners to Post the Legal No gun signs?, I'm sure Business owners would be thinking about the concerns of their customers who would Probably Protest someone walking in the Store with a weapon. People way of thinking, they wouldn't be ready for that.
We don't know yet, since we don't know what such a law would say.

Let's not assume the worst, but lets also make sure that changes we encourage are good changes.

Maybe a simple "No guns" or ghostbuster could prohibit open carry while leaving the CHL laws unchanged.

Personally, I think anyone running a public access business can either provide a secure lockup for checking firearms, and armed search of those entering, or take down the signs. After all, that sign is NOT STOPPING the DANGEROUS CRIMINAL.

Most people only put up such signs due to their insurance companies or boiler plate company policies, especially for CHL. It's concealed so no one cares otherwise.

How many CHL holders (or illegal) guns have you seen or (likely) detected this week? This year? Ever?

And if you have seen them, were they LEOs, CHL, otherwise law abiding, or generally criminals?

Without a security check point a sign is worse than worthless -- they are dangerous.
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Re: Open Carry In The News

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G36Packer wrote:I am supporting open carry. I may never actually OC but I would rather have the option than not.
same here!
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Re: Open Carry In The News

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HerbM wrote: How many CHL holders (or illegal) guns have you seen or (likely) detected this week? This year? Ever?
I just assume everyone's carrying.
especially if they have a fannypack on ...... :boxing
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Re: Open Carry In The News

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I signed the petition and am for open carry, but I more than likely would keep mine concealed.

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Re: Open Carry In The News

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DoubleJ wrote:
HerbM wrote: How many CHL holders (or illegal) guns have you seen or (likely) detected this week? This year? Ever?
I just assume everyone's carrying.
especially is they have a fannypack on ...... :boxing
:thumbs2: Good plan!

And thanks everyone for signing -- I think I prefer CC myself, but removing as many gun control laws as possible is a good thing.

Control criminals.
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