Anyone else had fingerprints denied?

[Brad Johnson]

Just processed my renewal a couple of months ago and had to redo my fingerprints. They were sent back by the FBI as insufficient. I checked them out pretty thoroughly before sending everything to Austin and they looked good. Guess they weren't good enough. I resubmitted and am waiting on the reply.

I'm presuming it's just the FBI being hypercritical about these things since 9/11, but was wondering if anyone else has had a problem.

Brad

[mr fixit]

My origianl certification wa held up for prints. Kaufman County Sherriff Dept. did them with the ink pad. Got a letter from DPS that they were unacdeptable. Went to another LE agnecy and had them done with the photo scan thing, no ink. looked lots better, and had no problems. My renewal was done with the ink again, no problems there either. I guess sometimes it's just bad prints

[Kalrog]

Mine were done on ink - and I actually made a photo copy of them prior to submitting them. Accepted with no problem.

[Baytown]

Mine were rejected the first time I applied.

Glenn

[Paladin]

My fingerprints were rejected the first time around. Same guy redid them. Second set of prints were worse than the first ones (I don't fingerprint well) and they accepted them!

Anyway my license took about 4 months because of this.

[Chris]

we've been getting a lot of people in over the last year that were repeats on fingerprints. it seems that DPS has just gotten really picky over their fingerprints as of late.

[Greybeard]

Dont' feel lonesome. It happens all too frequently.

Rather high rate of rejection of fingerprints is one of the reasons that, even as CHL instructor who could be qualified, I don't do them. I went to a special class on fingerprinting several years ago. The more I learned about it (and the cost of the equipment to do it with any "certainty"), the less I wanted to do it - not the old fashioned way, anyway. FBI seems to be using a scanner (and/or operator?) that is sometimes quite persnikety.

Another royal PIA can be when the officer who does the fingerprinting does not sign the back of one of the passport photos and an applicant gets it sent back and has to go chase him/her down ...

[anygunanywhere]

When Florida was processing my prints the FBI rejected my first set. The FLorida folks sent a nice letter explaining why. I sent another set with a letter explaining why my prints were bad. The Galveston County Crime Scene Investigator that did my prints explained that my 25+ years in the chemical industry had indeed eaten away my prints. The only solution is to use a water based moisturizer (you bunch of gun totin' metro-sexual wannabees!) to enhance your prints for a week before you have your prints taken. THe wife will probably like the softer hands too! :D

[mec]

Very common.
One woman got her's rejected and dropped by the DPS office in Austin to have them done there. A trooper looked at the rejected set and said " These are fine. They just got behind and rejected the prints to buy more time." He signed off on them and they went through.

I was not aware of prints being rejected by the FBI but did know that the TDPS routinely sends them back.

In the Instructor retraining, we were told that many elderly people have very faint prints. The instructor, after having the prints rejected three times, was told to write a letter certifying the problem and that these are the best prints that can be obtained from the individual. The instructor that brough the matter up was rightfully upset over the long delay involved n submitting three attempts.

[dolanp]

The guy who did mine was supposedly FBI-certified at taking fingerprints so I hope this doesn't happen to me. Will be 60 days shortly, then I'll get on the horn and make some noise.

[Greybeard]

I heard a new one the other day. 82-year old man in for a renewal class said that the last time he was fingerprinted, the guy doing it eventually had to borrow a special device used to get fingerprints at the morgue.

[stevie_d_64]

THe wife will probably like the softer hands too! :D

Priceless Anygun!!!

[stevie_d_64]

I can understand the original need to fingerprints to be a part of the licensing process...

But why have we not asked (begged, pleaded, demanded) for it "not" to be necessary for a renewal of that same license???

Obviously...Other than losing one or more digits in the interim, what actually changes about your fingerprints...

I can imagine using logic would just really hack off those who would actually have to address the fiduciary impact this issue brings to the State and more to the Federal government...Cause everybody's got to get a piece of the pie I suppose...

Later,
Steve

[Charles L. Cotton]

It is my understanding the problem lies with the FBI, not DPS. The FBI apparently will not process a background check without a fingerprint card, even if the name is already in their database. I have no idea if this is true. I also find it interesting that the NICS check is performed without a fingerprint card.

Regards,
Chas.

[stevie_d_64]

Maybe thats the reason why we continue to have the instant NCIC check, is because we do have our files updated and re-verified at the Federal level every 4-5 years, is a benefit, so we can point, buy, and walk out with anything they have on the shelves at most dealers right on the spot...

I'm not saying I like the intrusive-ness feel I get regarding the whole issue, but having the permit does have its pros and cons...

Later,
Steve