So are we just going to ignore the elephant in here...

[KBCraig]

Think about it. HEMIzygote has stated on this forum that he is 22 years old and an "infectious disease pharmacist." It takes at least six years to become a pharmacist.

Six years of what? A BSPharm and 1500hrs of internship would be a bit under 5 years, assuming no special effort to speed things along via unholy courseload, etc. In some states, even a PharmD can be had in around 5 years.

There is no BSPharm any longer. The PharmD is the first awarded degree. If someone graduates from high school early at 16 and goes straight into a 60-100 hour pre-pharm program (skipping the Bachelor degree), then pharm school, it's possible to be an accredited pharmacist by age 22.

(edit: the cuss filter doesn't care for the common abbreviation for a Bachelor of Science degree, and "skipping the bull" just didn't make much sense... )

[lawrnk]

Okay heres my other 2 cents,we've done the math there are many things that might of happened,let'stake the high road here nd start posting about other things going on, saw on the news where 4 bg followed a 74 year old man home from the bank,1 bg jumped out of car and attacked him started choking him trying to rob him,he ended up getting a bullet due to 74 yr old guy having a chl and after pleading with the guy to stop had to shoot to stop him,1 bg dead 3 bg lst seen leaving at high rate of speed

Award for the longest "run on" sentence!

[Texbow]

I'm mostly a lurker on here but I just have to chime in.

After reading all 11 pages plus the links back to other post on this issue I have determined that I don't care if the story is true or false. If I could only get those 10 minutes back...

[lawrnk]

I'm mostly a lurker on here but I just have to chime in.

After reading all 11 pages plus the links back to other post on this issue I have determined that I don't care if the story is true or false. If I could only get those 10 minutes back...

I'll speak to the boss about a refund

[Snake Doctor]

Okay heres my other 2 cents,we've done the math there are many things that might of happened,let'stake the high road here nd start posting about other things going on, saw on the news where 4 bg followed a 74 year old man home from the bank,1 bg jumped out of car and attacked him started choking him trying to rob him,he ended up getting a bullet due to 74 yr old guy having a chl and after pleading with the guy to stop had to shoot to stop him,1 bg dead 3 bg lst seen leaving at high rate of speed

Award for the longest "run on" sentence!

Seriously... Punctuation seems to be about as popular as Ms. Clinton on this board.

[lawrnk]

Okay heres my other 2 cents,we've done the math there are many things that might of happened,let'stake the high road here nd start posting about other things going on, saw on the news where 4 bg followed a 74 year old man home from the bank,1 bg jumped out of car and attacked him started choking him trying to rob him,he ended up getting a bullet due to 74 yr old guy having a chl and after pleading with the guy to stop had to shoot to stop him,1 bg dead 3 bg lst seen leaving at high rate of speed

Award for the longest "run on" sentence!

Seriously... Punctuation seems to be about as popular as Ms. Clinton on this board.

Haha, now that is funny!

[RPBrown]

One of the reasons that I became a member of this forum was due to the friendly nature of the folks here and the rules that Charles has set in place to ensure it stays that way. Until recently there were no issues of someone flamming someone else. This was a helping and caring forum.

It has seemed to have gotten away from those values that Charles has tried to insall. Its truley sad as this is what happened to PDO. I for one do not want this site to go away or become what others have.

With that said, whether we beleve the story or not, lets all keep the negative comments to ouselves and use the story as a learning tool. Such as what would I do in a similar instance. Use this point as a discussion tool.

Again, I want to thank Charles as well as the Mods for attempting to keep this site as it was origanally intended.

[WildBill]

Think about it. HEMIzygote has stated on this forum that he is 22 years old and an "infectious disease pharmacist." It takes at least six years to become a pharmacist.

Six years of what? A BSPharm and 1500hrs of internship would be a bit under 5 years, assuming no special effort to speed things along via unholy courseload, etc. In some states, even a PharmD can be had in around 5 years.

There is no BSPharm any longer. The PharmD is the first awarded degree. If someone graduates from high school early at 16 and goes straight into a 60-100 hour pre-pharm program (skipping the Bachelor degree), then pharm school, it's possible to be an accredited pharmacist by age 22.

(edit: the cuss filter doesn't care for the common abbreviation for a Bachelor of Science degree, and "skipping the bull" just didn't make much sense... )

You're absolutely right. It is possible to become a pharmacist by age 22.

[Dragonfighter]

This is the first time I've weighed in on this, I have been suspending my judgment until a consensus seemed to have been reached within the community, and it seems like it has, so with that in mind...

I understand the want to quell the personal attacks against HEMIzygote, and that is for a good reason. However, I do not fault anybody FOR attacking, as when he authored the original thread, there was an immediate outpouring of sympathy and care for what he had to "go through". But after the members of this community that had connections within the media and law enforcement began to research this and were coming back with negative reports of this ever happening, it was like a stab in the back not only for the members who showed support and sympathy for him, but for the texaschlforum.com community and the state-wide CHL community as a whole.

<SNIP>

Good point.

I have been keeping my wife in the loop on these developments and she threw out something that was an interesting diversion in thought. What if, HZ's presence here and the subsequent story were cultivated to gauge our reaction to such an event? I.E. psychological paper, news story, etc.

Remember, if someone IS out to get you, "paranoid" is just good thinking.

[RKirby]

One of the reasons that I became a member of this forum was due to the friendly nature of the folks here and the rules that Charles has set in place to ensure it stays that way. Until recently there were no issues of someone flamming someone else. This was a helping and caring forum.

It has seemed to have gotten away from those values that Charles has tried to insall. Its truley sad as this is what happened to PDO. I for one do not want this site to go away or become what others have.

With that said, whether we beleve the story or not, lets all keep the negative comments to ouselves and use the story as a learning tool. Such as what would I do in a similar instance. Use this point as a discussion tool.

Again, I want to thank Charles as well as the Mods for attempting to keep this site as it was origanally intended.

Excellent post and I couldn't agree more.

I also frequent this site in part because of the usually civil and courteous demeanor of the vast majority of the members. There are many other forums where this is not the case. This thread seems to be taking us down that very same road.

I, for one, don't want to take that journey. TexasCHLforum is too valuable of an asset to all of us. Let's not let it degenerate into anything less.

This thread has outlived it's usefulness and I for one would be happy to see it locked.

[Lucky45]

I just hope that all the cyber-bullying that went on in this post, will not cause anyone in the pharmacy field in the near future to take out any frustrations in public for real.
So on that note , I think it time for this post to be LOCKED. I will see if the big man upstairs can go ahead and do it for me, since it seems no one can cause a thread to be locked better than me. D's

[FightinAggieCHL]

I have been keeping my wife in the loop on these developments and she threw out something that was an interesting diversion in thought. What if, HZ's presence here and the subsequent story were cultivated to gauge our reaction to such an event? I.E. psychological paper, news story, etc.

Wouldn't he then have to obtain permission from us to be "studied"?

[Photoman]

With that said, whether we beleve the story or not, lets all keep the negative comments to ouselves and use the story as a learning tool. Such as what would I do in a similar instance. Use this point as a discussion tool.

This is a good point.

Yesterday at the range, I was thinking about this scenario. I always carry at least a short barrel five shooter and would be up a creek without a second gun.

This scenario reminds me of Jim Cirillo's first shootout with the SOU.

Ayoob quotes Cirillo:

“When the metal nylon-covered crotch piece fell to the floor with a resounding clunk, all three turned toward the sound and pointed their handguns in my direction. The next thing I knew I heard shots. I felt my Model 10 Smith & Wesson bucking in my hands, and I was asking myself mentally, ‘Who the hell is shooting my gun?’

“When the smoke cleared, I did not see one gunman anywhere. I cursed myself for the fear that overcame me and was terribly embarrassed by what I thought was a total loss of control and accuracy. When the cashier told me that one robber was still there, I quickly drew my second revolver, but she stated, ‘Don’t worry. He isn’t going anywhere.’ As I jumped down from the manager’s booth where I was positioned, I was partially relieved that at least I had stopped one of the robbers.�

He had done better than he knew. The robber who wasn’t going anywhere was mortally wounded by a bullet through the brain. Jim had hit him three times in the head with 110 grain Super Vel semi-jacketed hollow point .38 Specials. Two of the bullets had skidded off his skull, leaving him up and running. The third had ended his deadly threat.

The other two thugs had escaped, one half-carrying the other. Both were arrested that day when they attempted to seek treatment for gunshot wounds. Cirillo had hurt each of them badly enough to make them desperately flee the fight.

Full article here:

http://www.americanhandgunner.com/CAF0108.html

[frankie_the_yankee]

There's a lot to be learned from analyzing true-to-life accounts of gunfights. I found Ayoob's column referenced above quite interesting.

Fictional accounts do not have the same educational value, IMO. Watching Clint take out multiple BG's in a diner is entertaining, but doesn't hold much of value for the CHLer.

[Dragonfighter]

With that said, whether we beleve the story or not, lets all keep the negative comments to ouselves and use the story as a learning tool. Such as what would I do in a similar instance. Use this point as a discussion tool.

This is a good point.

Yesterday at the range, I was thinking about this scenario. I always carry at least a short barrel five shooter and would be up a creek without a second gun.

I must admit, I have gone from carrying extra mags to a "just enough to back me out the door" mentality. I've adopted an attitude that, "If 14 rds can't get me out of trouble, I'm probably in more trouble than the pistol can extricate me from."

I'm going to have to go with photoman here. Since this thread, I've gone back to carrying a spare. There are just too many scenarios where the original load would be marginal at best.