Correct. The county owns the property. The initial complaint needs to go to them. The problem is sifting through the bureaucracy in order to get the complaint in front of the correct entity.RossA wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the complaint has to go to the county, not to HLSR. It is county property and the county would be the ones fined (assuming the law is followed).
Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC
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Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC
It is still owned by Harris County so we are good to pursue this.TexasCajun wrote:I received a response from Harris County - Houston Sports Authority. Apparently, the county has some sort of arrangement with a non profit called Harris County Sports & Convention Corporation that actually is in charge of operations at NRG Stadium. The head honchos over there aren't as forthcoming with their contact info. I called the main number & got no answer. So I faxed the complaint to the number listed on the website.
I'll keep y'all posted on any response (if any) and developments.
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So should the complaint go to the county judge and commissioner's court?
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Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC
TexasCajun not sure if this will help, but here is the quick results I found.
The Harris County Sports & Convention Corporation (HCSCC), is a component of Harris County, Texas, which was created by the Commissioners Court of Harris County, Texas for the purposes of aiding and acting on behalf of Harris County in managing, operating, maintaining and developing the sports and entertainment complex located on County-owned property, known as NRG Park.
Phone: (832) 667-1841
Fax: (832) 667-1410
Physical Address:
NRG Stadium, South Lobby
Houston, TX 77054
Board of Directors
Edgardo E. Colón Chairman
Terry A. Thornton Vice Chairman
John J. Montalbano Secretary/Treasurer
Carel Stith Director
M. Robert Dussler Director
Staff
Kevin H. Hoffman Executive Director
Debra K. Smith Director of Finance and Accounting
Monique Crayton-Smith Staff Accountant
Linda Reece-Whitaker Office Manager
Gloria Hernandez Executive Assistant
The Harris County Sports & Convention Corporation (HCSCC), is a component of Harris County, Texas, which was created by the Commissioners Court of Harris County, Texas for the purposes of aiding and acting on behalf of Harris County in managing, operating, maintaining and developing the sports and entertainment complex located on County-owned property, known as NRG Park.
Phone: (832) 667-1841
Fax: (832) 667-1410
Physical Address:
NRG Stadium, South Lobby
Houston, TX 77054
Board of Directors
Edgardo E. Colón Chairman
Terry A. Thornton Vice Chairman
John J. Montalbano Secretary/Treasurer
Carel Stith Director
M. Robert Dussler Director
Staff
Kevin H. Hoffman Executive Director
Debra K. Smith Director of Finance and Accounting
Monique Crayton-Smith Staff Accountant
Linda Reece-Whitaker Office Manager
Gloria Hernandez Executive Assistant
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Thanks DD. That's the same info that I found. Unfortunately, they don't list their email addresses. So I had to fax the notice.
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Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC
No, any person or LTC can serve the notice and file the complaint with the AG. Service the notice on Harris County, not some subdivision thereof.canvasbck wrote:Does it have to be a Harris County resident? I would be happy to file this complaint. As a lifetime HLSR member and a committee captain, I am appalled at their new stance on concealed carry.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Someone needs to file a complaint with Harris County now. The Rodeo has already made a public statement banning open and concealed carry and that triggers SB273's provisions. The County will have three days to "cure" this notice. Since the notice was oral rather than a sign, the retraction must also be oral. Three days after filing the notice with Harris County, file a complaint with the AG. The AG must give fifteen days to cure and, again, the only cure will be oral retraction. Since the rodeo is more than 15 days away, and lasts more than 15 days to boot, the $1,500 per day per sign fine will attach.
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If not the managing agency, specifically who should the complaint go to? County Judge Ed Emmett? County Attorney? County Commissioners?Charles L. Cotton wrote:No, any person or LTC can serve the notice and file the complaint with the AG. Service the notice on Harris County, not some subdivision thereof.canvasbck wrote:Does it have to be a Harris County resident? I would be happy to file this complaint. As a lifetime HLSR member and a committee captain, I am appalled at their new stance on concealed carry.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Someone needs to file a complaint with Harris County now. The Rodeo has already made a public statement banning open and concealed carry and that triggers SB273's provisions. The County will have three days to "cure" this notice. Since the notice was oral rather than a sign, the retraction must also be oral. Three days after filing the notice with Harris County, file a complaint with the AG. The AG must give fifteen days to cure and, again, the only cure will be oral retraction. Since the rodeo is more than 15 days away, and lasts more than 15 days to boot, the $1,500 per day per sign fine will attach.
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Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC
I sent a letter/email off to the Judges office and most of his staff, I expect to here back with a standard form letter response, but you never know!!
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Just got email back from Judge Emmett's office, they are referring the issue to county attorney's office. This will probably go nowhere but we will see. He was copyied on my email. Robert.Soard@cao.hctx.net is the attorney. I will probably have helicopters hovering over my house shortly and men in dark suits driving black surburbans pulling into my drive
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Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC
link to the online form to file a complaint.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/apps/3006/
Here is how I filled it out: (Removed my personal info for this post)
First Name:
Last Name:
Phone:
Email Address:
Physical Address:
Building Name: NRG Stadium and grounds
Owner of Building: Harris county
Building Address: Reliant Pkwy, Houston, TX 77054
Date/Time Reported: 02/18/2016
Description: See link below
http://www.rodeohouston.com/AboutUs/Lat ... o%e2%84%a2
Use of Building: Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/apps/3006/
Here is how I filled it out: (Removed my personal info for this post)
First Name:
Last Name:
Phone:
Email Address:
Physical Address:
Building Name: NRG Stadium and grounds
Owner of Building: Harris county
Building Address: Reliant Pkwy, Houston, TX 77054
Date/Time Reported: 02/18/2016
Description: See link below
http://www.rodeohouston.com/AboutUs/Lat ... o%e2%84%a2
Use of Building: Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo
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I saved the page on archive.org's Wayback Machine site, just in case it gets changed - we'll have a record of what it looked like today (along with a date stamp), without a doubt.Dan20703 wrote:link to the online form to file a complaint.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/apps/3006/
Here is how I filled it out: (Removed my personal info for this post)
First Name:
Last Name:
Phone:
Email Address:
Physical Address:
Building Name: NRG Stadium and grounds
Owner of Building: Harris county
Building Address: Reliant Pkwy, Houston, TX 77054
Date/Time Reported: 02/18/2016
Description: See link below
http://www.rodeohouston.com/AboutUs/Lat ... o%e2%84%a2
Use of Building: Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo
https://web.archive.org/web/20160219214 ... o%E2%84%A2
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Anything on this so far?
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I'm waiting the three business days required by statute before filling my complaint with the AG's office. That will put my due date on Wed for filling with the AG.canvasbck wrote:Anything on this so far?
I've heard (but not confirmed) that 30.06 & 30.07 signs have been installed on the ticket booths. I'll see if I can get hard proof before Wed.
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Wednesday is also my day for AG notification. My first committee shift is Friday night. If the signs are there, I will take a picture.
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I submitted a freedom of information request to the AG for any replies that his office has made to any improper 30.06 signs and they just emailed me and told me that they hadn't replied to ANY yet.
No way in hell these signs will be taken down by the end of the rodeo :/
No way in hell these signs will be taken down by the end of the rodeo :/