Why?Molon_labe wrote:I will say this, my scenario
I ride motorcycles with Star Touring (a family oriented motorcycle group)
On one ride our Captain hit a oil slick in a turn and went down (slid into the rear tire of a truck) it rang his bell really good (he had full gear on thank God) and he was carrying
Before the ambulance/police arrived his carry gun "disappeared"
I now know it was illegal for the gun to be taken by non-CHL licensed people,
What to do if you are carrying and are in a accident?
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I guess the others were "worried" I didn't know they had taken it till after the ambulance/police left, we were waiting for our buddies (that went to the hospital with him to come back, and for the recovery vehicle to show up to get his bike)
In hindsite it was 110% stupid for them to take it
In hindsite it was 110% stupid for them to take it
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Why?Molon_labe wrote:I guess the others were "worried" I didn't know they had taken it till after the ambulance/police left, we were waiting for our buddies (that went to the hospital with him to come back, and for the recovery vehicle to show up to get his bike)
In hindsite it was 110% stupid for them to take it
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They didn't know any better
Can you please not sound like my 4 year old and carry an "adult" conversation
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Can you please not sound like my 4 year old and carry an "adult" conversation
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Wow what a great amount of information.
I talked at length with a Harris County Sherrif's Deputy at my churhc the other night and got the following answer:
Give the firearm to your wife or someone else on scene that you know to take home. When I asked about weather those people had to have a CHL or not I was told that "none of our guys are going to arrest your wife or friend at the scene for securing your personal posessions"
If you are out cold or otherwise medicaly unable to do that a deputy will take posession of the firearm.
Just wanted to ask this question to get everyone thinking now so that you do not have to answer this question when you are standing in the middle of the street and hurt.
Saulnier out
I talked at length with a Harris County Sherrif's Deputy at my churhc the other night and got the following answer:
Give the firearm to your wife or someone else on scene that you know to take home. When I asked about weather those people had to have a CHL or not I was told that "none of our guys are going to arrest your wife or friend at the scene for securing your personal posessions"
If you are out cold or otherwise medicaly unable to do that a deputy will take posession of the firearm.
Just wanted to ask this question to get everyone thinking now so that you do not have to answer this question when you are standing in the middle of the street and hurt.
Saulnier out
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Like it has been said here, the weapon should and will be secured. As a medic I am going to give you a hands on head to toe survey. If you have a weapon and are able to make logical sound decisions, than we will secure your weapon with lets say a family member or who ever you choose to accept it. If your out of it due to serious injuries, then your weapon will be placed with LEO. I will document what kinda weapon was found (make model) and I will document in my patient report the name, ID, and agency, the LEO is with and that the weapon was turned over to. If it is discovered in the MICU after a quick grab and go (extreme Trauma incident) I will secure your weapon in our MICU's lock box and contact LEO when we arrive at the hospital.
Most EMS providers are/should be trained in how to handle a discovered fire arm. I teach EMT school and cover this portion on how to handle a discovered weapon. For students that have no savvy with Fire arms, they are instructed on the proper handling of a firearm.
Most EMS providers are/should be trained in how to handle a discovered fire arm. I teach EMT school and cover this portion on how to handle a discovered weapon. For students that have no savvy with Fire arms, they are instructed on the proper handling of a firearm.
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My apologiesllwatson wrote:Stick with the issues. Leave out the personal attacks, please.
Because even though they did it for "good" reasons..its still illegal...PERIOD, in my class it was stated in black and white it is illegal to give your firearm to a non-chl person to take home or whatever (I believe it was on the test too)Saulnier wrote:Wow what a great amount of information.
I talked at length with a Harris County Sherrif's Deputy at my church the other night and got the following answer:
Give the firearm to your wife or someone else on scene that you know to take home. When I asked about weather those people had to have a CHL or not I was told that "none of our guys are going to arrest your wife or friend at the scene for securing your personal possessions"
If you are out cold or otherwise medically unable to do that a deputy will take possession of the firearm.
Just wanted to ask this question to get everyone thinking now so that you do not have to answer this question when you are standing in the middle of the street and hurt.
Saulnier out
Most cops would let it slide..but I guarantee one day you will run into the "by the book" rookie, and where will that leave them?
I kinda thought it would be that way...the EMT responding would take possession and give to LEO if a weapon was found, now what about later on when the LEO asks for the plastic to confirm why you had a pisol on you is still out thereSludge wrote:Like it has been said here, the weapon should and will be secured. As a medic I am going to give you a hands on head to toe survey. If you have a weapon and are able to make logical sound decisions, than we will secure your weapon with lets say a family member or who ever you choose to accept it. If your out of it due to serious injuries, then your weapon will be placed with LEO. I will document what kinda weapon was found (make model) and I will document in my patient report the name, ID, and agency, the LEO is with and that the weapon was turned over to. If it is discovered in the MICU after a quick grab and go (extreme Trauma incident) I will secure your weapon in our MICU's lock box and contact LEO when we arrive at the hospital.
Most EMS providers are/should be trained in how to handle a discovered fire arm. I teach EMT school and cover this portion on how to handle a discovered weapon. For students that have no savvy with Fire arms, they are instructed on the proper handling of a firearm.
Great post and replies guys...THANKS!
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That statement is just plain wrong. It's illegal to have a handgun "on or about" your person in Texas. Then there are the exceptions, such as having a CHL or traveling. And of course putting it in the trunk removes any question about it being "on or about" the person.Molon_labe wrote:Because even though they did it for "good" reasons..its still illegal...PERIOD, in my class it was stated in black and white it is illegal to give your firearm to a non-chl person to take home or whatever (I believe it was on the test too)
Think about it: if you sold that gun to the person taking it home, they would have exactly the same legal status. How do you think a non-CHL can buy a handgun and take it home? Or handle one at a store or gun show?
Unless he has a CHL, that EMT's legal status is exactly the same as a friend or family member's.I kinda thought it would be that way...the EMT responding would take possession and give to LEO if a weapon was found
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