Texans Respond to License to Carry

CHL discussions that do not fit into more specific topics

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

User avatar

Topic author
oljames3
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 90
Posts: 5358
Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:21 pm
Location: Bastrop, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#196

Post by oljames3 »

"EASTLAND TEXAS REJECTING NO-GUN ZONE"
http://www.eastlandcountytoday.com/east ... o-gun-zone

"Texas State recommendations on campus carry"
http://local.allembru.com/tx/texas-stat ... y/2735980/

Confusion abounds.
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments ... questions/

Watch "Texas Campus Carry Documentary" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/z1PWD1TKQwU

"Lone Star state expands gun rights, mandates additional signage to ban guns from property"
http://www.lexology.com/library/detail. ... 7c52ad77df
http://www.jacksonlewis.com/publication ... s-property

Confused bankers.
https://www.bankersonline.com/forum/ubb ... un_Signage

Better informed bankers.
http://www.ibat.org/legal-ease/2015/1/o ... open-carry

"Texas’ Open Carry Law: 3 Steps Hotels Should Take Before the New Year"
http://www.ogletreedeakins.com/shared-c ... e-new-year

"Kilgore PD schedules Open Carry seminar for December"
http://us.geosnews.com/p/us/tx/gregg-co ... er_1945286
O. Lee James, III Captain, US Army (Retired 2012), Honorable Order of St. Barbara
Safety Ministry Director, First Baptist Church Elgin
NRA, NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Instructor, Rangemaster Certified, GOA, TSRA, NAR L1

locke_n_load
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 1000
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:35 pm

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#197

Post by locke_n_load »

Better Informed Bankers:
One option with regard to nonconforming signs is to post something that expresses the bank’s support of CHL and/or the 2ndAmendment, but also asks CHL carriers to not bring their handguns into the bank. You’ll have to come up with your own wording if you choose to do this.
Isn't that the definition of lying? Haha.
CHL Holder since 10/08
NRA Certified Instructor
Former LTC Instructor
User avatar

Glockster
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 26
Posts: 1075
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:48 am
Location: Kingwood, TX

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#198

Post by Glockster »

oljames3 wrote:"EASTLAND TEXAS REJECTING NO-GUN ZONE"
http://www.eastlandcountytoday.com/east ... o-gun-zone
Mayor Vernon stated he would feel safer knowing that law abiding armed citizens would be around if any disgruntled, crazed or terrorist individual was causing harm and the situation could be thwarted eliminating casualties.
Eastland Chief of Police, Billy Myrick said he would not have any issue with folks having firearms and would welcome it. The assistance to his force in case of any tragic situations might be helpful.

Sounds like a place that I'd like to visit one day!
NRA Life Member
My State Rep Hubert won't tell me his position on HB560. How about yours?
User avatar

Glockster
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 26
Posts: 1075
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:48 am
Location: Kingwood, TX

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#199

Post by Glockster »

oljames3 wrote: Confusion abounds.
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments ... questions/
Hi all, I know the full info hasn't been released (that I'm aware of) but I was wondering if anyone can advise me here. I was about to get my CHL, but I was told by someone I should wait until January 1st for open carry. Two questions:

1) If you get your open carry license, does it include the CHL in it? Or do you need to get both? I don't want to get my CHL and then find out the open carry includes it

2) Has any info on the pricing, prereqs, training required, etc. been released yet for open carry?

Thanks in advanced!
Wow. And one of the replies was equally a wow, answering "yes" to above question #1...."confirming" that the "open carry license" does include the CHL in it, and "CHL (soon to be LTCH (license to carry handgun))."
NRA Life Member
My State Rep Hubert won't tell me his position on HB560. How about yours?
User avatar

Glockster
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 26
Posts: 1075
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:48 am
Location: Kingwood, TX

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#200

Post by Glockster »

oljames3 wrote: "Texas’ Open Carry Law: 3 Steps Hotels Should Take Before the New Year"
http://www.ogletreedeakins.com/shared-c ... e-new-year
And yet another "wow." It's kinda like they just make a lot of this stuff up, almost as if we don't have magical boxes at our desks that can access lots of knowledge out there in the real world. Where the sky is blue.
In addition, while employees may lawfully store and transport a firearm in the trunk of a personal vehicle, the law does not allow them to talk about it or threaten to use it. Thus, hotels may want to consider including one additional provision in a handbook and/or policy manual:

Employees are prohibited from making any statements or actions that draw attention to the presence of a lawfully transported weapon or that threaten or intimidate other employees, clients, or visitors with regard to the employee’s lawful possession of a weapon.
NRA Life Member
My State Rep Hubert won't tell me his position on HB560. How about yours?

treadlightly
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 1335
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:17 pm

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#201

Post by treadlightly »

I'm very sad to report another bank, and probably another one yet, have posted 30.06/30.07 in my tiny little town.

I just left my old bank because of 30.06.

The branch manager and I spoke about why I was opening an account, and had a nice discussion. This afternoon we had another nice discussion in which he said he would not make any complaint about formerly lawful concealed handguns in his bank.

I reiterated a statement about how law abiding CHL holders were and assured him I would never carry past a 30.06, whether or not I would get into trouble for it.

Sounds like I'm bank-shopping once again.
User avatar

AJSully421
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 1436
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:31 pm
Location: SW Fort Worth

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#202

Post by AJSully421 »

Glockster wrote:
oljames3 wrote: "Texas’ Open Carry Law: 3 Steps Hotels Should Take Before the New Year"
http://www.ogletreedeakins.com/shared-c ... e-new-year
And yet another "wow." It's kinda like they just make a lot of this stuff up, almost as if we don't have magical boxes at our desks that can access lots of knowledge out there in the real world. Where the sky is blue.
In addition, while employees may lawfully store and transport a firearm in the trunk of a personal vehicle, the law does not allow them to talk about it or threaten to use it. Thus, hotels may want to consider including one additional provision in a handbook and/or policy manual:

Employees are prohibited from making any statements or actions that draw attention to the presence of a lawfully transported weapon or that threaten or intimidate other employees, clients, or visitors with regard to the employee’s lawful possession of a weapon.

Texas law does not allow a person to talk about a firearm while at work??? When did Adolf get elected around here?

Now, one is not allowed to threaten anyone and say that they are going out to their vehicle to get a firearm, but that is just common sense.
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan, 1964

30.06 signs only make criminals and terrorists safer.

NRA, LTC, School Safety, Armed Security, & Body Guard Instructor
User avatar

Topic author
oljames3
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 90
Posts: 5358
Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:21 pm
Location: Bastrop, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#203

Post by oljames3 »

TSU "Concealed Carry Open Forum Brings Mixed Opinions"
https://ktsw899.wordpress.com/2015/11/1 ... -opinions/

"Diverse range of opinions displayed at campus carry open forum"
https://star.txstate.edu/2015/11/19/div ... pen-forum/

"Texas college has most buildings on list of campus carry carve outs"
http://www.guns.com/2015/11/19/texas-co ... arve-outs/

KCEN TV (Temple, Killeen, Waco, and Bryan-College Station) "Open Carry: What you need to know"
http://www.kcentv.com/story/30558382/op ... ed-to-know

Lubbock "Open carry begins Jan. 1, city aims to keep employees safe with new policy"
http://www.oldies977lubbock.com/story/3 ... new-policy

Brownwood PD "Open Carry Workshop to be Held for Local Businesses"
http://www.brownwoodnews.com/index.php? ... &Itemid=58

"Campus carry author asks AG to decide whether schools can ban guns"
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/e ... 641998.php
O. Lee James, III Captain, US Army (Retired 2012), Honorable Order of St. Barbara
Safety Ministry Director, First Baptist Church Elgin
NRA, NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Instructor, Rangemaster Certified, GOA, TSRA, NAR L1
User avatar

Topic author
oljames3
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 90
Posts: 5358
Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:21 pm
Location: Bastrop, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#204

Post by oljames3 »

"TEXAS VIEW: Open carry? Best get used to it"
http://www.oaoa.com/editorial/views/tex ... 9ef49.html

"Lone Star State Expands Gun Rights"
http://www.shrm.org/legalissues/statean ... ights.aspx

HPD Second Open Carry Informational Meeting
http://www.houstontx.gov/police/open_ca ... -Flyer.pdf
O. Lee James, III Captain, US Army (Retired 2012), Honorable Order of St. Barbara
Safety Ministry Director, First Baptist Church Elgin
NRA, NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Instructor, Rangemaster Certified, GOA, TSRA, NAR L1

MeMelYup
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 1874
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:21 pm

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#205

Post by MeMelYup »

Why would a TCU board of regents meeting be considered a gun free zone?

"A common concern among speakers was the safety of the board of regents compared to the safety of students.

By law, the board of regents conducts meetings in gun-free zones because they discuss “controversial issues.” Multiple speakers pointed out that many places on campus are areas where controversial topics are discussed, such as the Fighting Stallions statue, however, those areas are not protected."
User avatar

Topic author
oljames3
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 90
Posts: 5358
Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:21 pm
Location: Bastrop, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#206

Post by oljames3 »

"Smith County begins preparations for Texas open cary law"
http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-News+Local ... n-cary-law

"Will Open Carry be Allowed on K-12 Campuses, Dem. State Senator Asks Texas AG"
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/11/ ... lobbyists/

"WHY DID THE HOUSTON ZOO BEND OVER FOR GUN RIGHTS ADVOCATES?"
http://www.houstonpress.com/news/why-di ... es-7937451

Nacogdoches County, Texas "County to discuss open carry policy"
(Service required. I'm including this to show that another county is discussing OC. The word is getting out.)
http://m.dailysentinel.com/news/local/a ... l?mode=jqm

Del Rio, Texas "DRPD hosts Open Carry seminar"
(Service required. I'm including this to show that another city is discussing OC. The word is getting out.)
http://m.delrionewsherald.com/news/arti ... l?mode=jqm

Austin Statesman article about Campus Carry at University of Colorado (references to UT Austin)
http://m.statesman.com/news/news/state- ... as-/npSZL/
O. Lee James, III Captain, US Army (Retired 2012), Honorable Order of St. Barbara
Safety Ministry Director, First Baptist Church Elgin
NRA, NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Instructor, Rangemaster Certified, GOA, TSRA, NAR L1

locke_n_load
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 1000
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:35 pm

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#207

Post by locke_n_load »

As I stated in another thread:

About the Houston Zoo "bending over" for gun rights activitists:
The Houston Zoo was clearly in violation, and would have cost the city thousands of dollars per day to keep the signs up. The Dallas Zoo with all it's claims throws a little bit more smoke into the mix, but they will come down as well, I believe.
The Houston Zoo having it's signs removed opened no flood gates - SB273, which simply gave the old law some teeth, did that, and it's a good thing. Keep those subdistricts of the state in line and in compliance with state law.

I am wondering what kind of time frame the AG is trying to make decisions on these complaints? It's been a couple of months already. I would think it would take a month tops to nail the lids on these coffins.
CHL Holder since 10/08
NRA Certified Instructor
Former LTC Instructor
User avatar

Topic author
oljames3
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 90
Posts: 5358
Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:21 pm
Location: Bastrop, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#208

Post by oljames3 »

"E. Texas counties, cities, prepping for Open Carry"
http://www.kltv.com/story/30589916/e-te ... open-carry

"Kilgore chamber to host open carry seminars"
http://www.news-journal.com/news/2015/n ... -seminars/

"Questions over concealed weapons in government buildings remain"
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/po ... 653127.php

Austin Statesman: "Abbott: Concealed handguns should be allowed in city, county buildings"
http://www.statesman.com/news/news/loca ... cit/npTbk/

Odessa, Texas, American (newspaper): "TEXAS VIEW: Open carry? Best get used to it"
(reprint of Houston Chronicle article)
http://www.oaoa.com/editorial/views/tex ... 9ef49.html

Property Management: "Signs Restricting Open Carry of Fire Arms !"
http://www.multifamilyinsiders.com/mult ... open-carry

Rusk County, Texas, Sheriff: "Open-carry becomes law of the land on Jan. 1"
(short quote, then subscription required)
http://www.hendersondailynews.com/news/ ... 7f78b.html
O. Lee James, III Captain, US Army (Retired 2012), Honorable Order of St. Barbara
Safety Ministry Director, First Baptist Church Elgin
NRA, NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Instructor, Rangemaster Certified, GOA, TSRA, NAR L1
User avatar

Topic author
oljames3
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 90
Posts: 5358
Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:21 pm
Location: Bastrop, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#209

Post by oljames3 »

Nacogdoches County: "No action was taken Tuesday by Nacogdoches County commissioners on altering — or leaving untouched — the regulation of licensed firearms on county property."
http://m.dailysentinel.com/news/local/a ... l?mode=jqm

Beaumont Enterprise: EDITORIAL: "Public buildings need local open-carry controls"
http://m.beaumontenterprise.com/opinion ... 655410.php

Houston Chronicle: "Escobar: If everything in Texas is bigger (and uglier), these signs win the prize"
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion ... 655688.php

San Antonio Public Library Board of Trustees: "Open Carry Law and possible impact on San Antonio Public Library"
https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legisla ... s=&Search=

Corpus Christi Caller Times Letter to Ed: "I have a greater fear of being assassinated by a Texan ..."
http://www.caller.com/opinion/letters-t ... 22301.html
O. Lee James, III Captain, US Army (Retired 2012), Honorable Order of St. Barbara
Safety Ministry Director, First Baptist Church Elgin
NRA, NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Instructor, Rangemaster Certified, GOA, TSRA, NAR L1
User avatar

Topic author
oljames3
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 90
Posts: 5358
Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:21 pm
Location: Bastrop, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texans Respond to License to Carry

#210

Post by oljames3 »

"Church signage required to ban handgun open carry after Jan. 1"
http://texanonline.net/archives/5186/

"GUSHER: For those working to help business owners and others understand what Texas' new open carry law will mean to their daily operations."
http://www.news-journal.com/news/2015/n ... liked-mda/

"THE GRUENE COWBOY BLOG: No open carry"
http://thegruenecowboy.com/blog

"Open Carry Coming..." (video)
http://texasruralnews.com/mdetail.asp?h ... 75-105.htm

Dallas Morning News - Letters to ed: "Should public places be gun-free?"
http://letterstotheeditorblog.dallasnew ... free.html/
O. Lee James, III Captain, US Army (Retired 2012), Honorable Order of St. Barbara
Safety Ministry Director, First Baptist Church Elgin
NRA, NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Instructor, Rangemaster Certified, GOA, TSRA, NAR L1
Post Reply

Return to “General Texas CHL Discussion”