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"respectable" penetration?

Because we all KNOW that those poor little girls can't handle the full load--and guess what--we'll paint it pink too!!

Yeah, very patronizing ... a pink gun or whatever is one thing, but "here lil' lady, shoot these soft shootin bullets" is another

I am not sure I will give Mr. Hornady any more of my money. It is time to replace my carry ammo for the year, and I am not sure I will get more Hornady CD. Personally disappointed and a bit insulted.

They should have made some of the Zombie Max in pink and called them Fatal Flowers.

gringo pistolero wrote:They should have made some of the Zombie Max in pink and called them Fatal Flowers.

How about some white bullets, "White Oleander".

Through how many wars over a hundred years have all sides used solid round nose bullets in shoulder and hand weapons? Now comes all sorts of "new and improved" bullets that are guaranteed to kill one's adversaries deader than dead.

I reckon today's gangbangers, muderers, rapists and assorted other bad guys are tougher than the soldiers of WWI & WWII?

Oldgringo wrote:Through how many wars over a hundred years have all sides used solid round nose bullets in shoulder and hand weapons? Now comes all sorts of "new and improved" bullets that are guaranteed to kill one's adversaries deader than dead.

I reckon today's gangbangers, muderers, rapists and assorted other bad guys are tougher than the soldiers of WWI & WWII?

It's called marketing, which has improved greatly since WWII. Have you ever watched Mad Men?

WildBill wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:Through how many wars over a hundred years have all sides used solid round nose bullets in shoulder and hand weapons? Now comes all sorts of "new and improved" bullets that are guaranteed to kill one's adversaries deader than dead.

I reckon today's gangbangers, muderers, rapists and assorted other bad guys are tougher than the soldiers of WWI & WWII?

It's called marketing, which has improved greatly since WWII. Have you ever watched Mad Men?

Yes! We loved the TV series w/o 'marketing' interruption through our NetFlix subscription. We're eagerly awaiting the newest episodes. I don't recall all the smokin' and other {stuff} of that era. Well, maybe I do remember the smokin'....

We couldn't wait for the next CD of Friday Night Lights. That was a great series! I guess it ran its course, the same people can't be in high school forever.

Softpoint works great if you're shooting it with a 30 caliber rifle.

Oldgringo wrote:

WildBill wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:Through how many wars over a hundred years have all sides used solid round nose bullets in shoulder and hand weapons? Now comes all sorts of "new and improved" bullets that are guaranteed to kill one's adversaries deader than dead.

I reckon today's gangbangers, muderers, rapists and assorted other bad guys are tougher than the soldiers of WWI & WWII?

It's called marketing, which has improved greatly since WWII. Have you ever watched Mad Men?

Yes! We loved the TV series w/o 'marketing' interruption through our NetFlix subscription. We're eagerly awaiting the newest episodes. I don't recall all the smokin' and other {stuff} of that era. Well, maybe I do remember the smokin'....

We couldn't wait for the next CD of Friday Night Lights. That was a great series! I guess it ran its course, the same people can't be in high school forever.

I have that series on DVD as well. I have liked Kyle Chandler ever since "Early Edition". The first two seasons are the best, IMO.

Richie Cunningham [Ron Howard] was 26 years old when he finally got out of high school and left "Happy Days."

Low recoil= lower velocity=lower penetration= lower chance to hit vitals= higher chance of bad guy beating/stabbing you to death


That's why my wife practices with full power and high pressure loads in her self defense handgun... All these gimmick pistols and bullets are just a way to sell an inferior product at a higher price... If I don't trust the ammo to protect me on duty I will not give it to my wive for her own protection... PERIOD END OF STORY!!!