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CHL class exam results

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:57 pm
by trumanOscar
I took my CHL class today. Why are the exam results not sent to the state?

Thanks

Re: CHL class exam results

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:00 pm
by AEA
They are on the CHL-100 in the form of "Pass" or "Fail".
Nothing more needed than that. Why make something so simple more troublesome than it's worth?

Re: CHL class exam results

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:06 pm
by C-dub
trumanOscar wrote:I took my CHL class today. Why are the exam results not sent to the state?

Thanks
Welcome to the forum!

I'm thinking that since the course is simply Pass or Fail that they don't care what your actual score was. Same with the shooting portion. I'm also thinking this is a good thing because when there is a shooting you might have some defendant's lawyer trying to retrieve your scores to use against you. A good or bad score can be used against you.

If you get a perfect score on the shooting part and then you kill someone in self defense there will be people that will ask why you didn't just shoot them in the leg or hand. Or if you shoot good enough to just barely pass the shooting portion they will argue that you should not have had a gun at all. Same thing could apply to the written test.

I think the Pass/Fail reporting is to protect us and maybe the state.

Re: CHL class exam results

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:14 pm
by Thomas
A boolean (true/false) in the database takes up less space than an integer (number up to +-32,767) :mrgreen:

The programmers ultimately make up the rules. This is why you see hyphenated last names now. Before computer databases, those people had two last names instead of one hyphenated last name. Early databases did not allow for spaces in peoples names, so data entry people substituted hyphens. In fact, the Texas CHL database is one of the few remaining databases that still does not accept spaces. The Texas Driver License database does allow spaces.

Oh, and welcome to the forum :tiphat:

Re: CHL class exam results

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:20 pm
by tacticool
AEA wrote:They are on the CHL-100 in the form of "Pass" or "Fail".
+1

Re: CHL class exam results

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:25 am
by cbunt1
And another reason they're scored as pass/fail and recorded as such comes into play with the possibility of civil suits following a "clean" shooting. We do have civil immunity, but it's an affirmative defense--there's no immunity from a suit being filed, just from the other party winning.

Without going into too much legal-babble and hypothetical, you DON'T necessarily want a record of how well you did or didn't shoot or answer on the tests--just that you demonstrated the appropriate level of competency.

In short, if you demonstrate under test conditions (lab condition?) that you CAN make a particular shot, or know the minute detail of a particular law an hour after you've had it explained or demonstrated, you don't want the question asked in a courtroom about why you couldn't, under the stress of a life-or-death situation remember exactly the circumstances you may defend a third-party or make the head-shot on the bad guy without winging a hostage...

Trust me...although it rarely (if ever) happens in Texas, it has happened elsewhere, and on that issue, the DPS and legislature have done well in maintaining the records they do in the way they do. :)