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HB 2112
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:30 pm
by fizteach
The way I read the latest on this, we can still carry as long as we do nothing illegal if this passes? The TSTA (Texas State Teacher's Association) is claiming a victory on this.
Re: HB 2112
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:37 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
fizteach wrote:The way I read the latest on this, we can still carry as long as we do nothing illegal if this passes? The TSTA (Texas State Teacher's Association) is claiming a victory on this.
That's correct. HB2112 addresses only that which was already illegal. The difference is that the offense is always a felony, if it occurs on school property or on a school bus. The committee substitute for HB2112 isn't remotely close to the as-filed version.
What does TSTA seem to think the bill does? If they are reading only the as-filed version, then they are going to be VERY disappointed.
Chas.
HB 2112
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:57 pm
by fizteach
The following was posted in their legislative update, as well as being posted on the web. Needless to say, I was ready to quit teaching when I read it.
I have heard lately that some districts are posting 30.06 signs. I think I read that here somewhere.
"Criminal Justice Committee Passes TSTA Supported Bills
Last night the Senate Committee on Criminal Justice passed HB 2112 by Rep. Patrick which bans handguns and other weapons from school parking lots."
Re: HB 2112
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:58 pm
by fizteach
fizteach wrote:The following was posted in their legislative update, as well as being posted on the web. Needless to say, I was ready to quit teaching when I read it.
I have heard lately that some districts are posting 30.06 signs IN THEIR PARKING LOTS. I think I read that here somewhere.
"Criminal Justice Committee Passes TSTA Supported Bills
Last night the Senate Committee on Criminal Justice passed HB 2112 by Rep. Patrick which bans handguns and other weapons from school parking lots."
Re: HB 2112
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:48 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
fizteach wrote:The following was posted in their legislative update, as well as being posted on the web. Needless to say, I was ready to quit teaching when I read it.
I have heard lately that some districts are posting 30.06 signs. I think I read that here somewhere.
"Criminal Justice Committee Passes TSTA Supported Bills
Last night the Senate Committee on Criminal Justice passed HB 2112 by Rep. Patrick which bans handguns and other weapons from school parking lots."
Boy, are they going to be very disappointed! I guess they didn't read the
committee substitute. As for 30.06 signs, they mean nothing, unless the school is a private school.
Where is the website?
Chas.
HB 2112
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:38 pm
by fizteach
http://www.tsta.org/news/current/
under news and information --center column
Re: HB 2112
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:40 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Thanks for the link. This was apparently printed after the public hearing in committee, but their information was wrong even at that stage. The committee substitute was adopted at that very hearing, so someone clearly fell asleep at the switch.
I hope they get it straight before they start telling their members that guns are now illegal in parking lots.
Chas.
Re: HB 2112
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:28 pm
by gmckinl
Charles L. Cotton wrote:fizteach wrote:I have heard lately that some districts are posting 30.06 signs. I think I read that here somewhere.
As for 30.06 signs, they mean nothing, unless the school is a private school.
Chas.
I think you heard about the schools from me. Plano is posting them at the entrances to the parking lots. They are 3/4" high letters not that it matters, for multiple reasons - as Charles pointed out.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:27 pm
by AggieMM
Ok, I'm confused, what does this bill do?
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80 ... 02112E.pdf
It just prevents the use/exhibition of firearms on school property? But for CHLer's, we can still carry in the parking lot?????
I also noticed that it is on the "Placed on local & uncontested calendar / 05/23/2007" agenda:
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/billlookup ... ill=HB2112
Ryan
Re: HB 2112
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:31 pm
by stevie_d_64
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I hope they get it straight before they start telling their members that guns are now illegal in parking lots.
What??? And miss all the fun??? Party Pooper!!!
Re: HB 2112
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:41 am
by KBCraig
Wow. My union supports the right of our members to carry personal firearms to work and store them in the parking lot, and actively negotiates and lobbies for that right.. Must be rough to be "represented" by a group working against you like that!
Kevin
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:11 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Yes, nothing changes for CHLs. What is illegal under HB2112 has always been illegal. The as-filed version of the Bill would have made it illegal to have guns in school parking lots, but Rep. Patrick worked with us to make major, no drastic, changes.
Chas.
What HB2112 really does
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:20 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
It’s probably not necessary for me to post this for our members, but we may well have some teachers and administrators reading TexasCHLforum who are not as familiar with HB2112 as are our folks. In view of the inaccurate information presented by TSTA, I want to clarify what HB2112 does and more importantly, what it does not do.
HB2112 makes it a felony to exhibit a firearm on school property or on a school bus, in a manner intended to cause alarm or injury to a person or damage to school property. This is all it does and such acts have always been illegal. HB2112 does not impact a CHLs authority to carry on school property. TSTA must not have realized the committee substitute was an entirely new bill.
Chas.