Can we talk here.....?

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I wonder if we can do some honest introspection here. I am going to open up and be as honest as I can.

Why do we, as "mature" adults, over the age of 21, law-abiding, up-standing citizens go absolutely gaga about getting our plastic? Really, just look back through any of the threads in the "Waiting Room" sub-forum, and you will see a lot of: :clapping: :biggrinjester: :tiphat: :cheers2: :hurry: :smash: :woohoo :rolll :fire :thewave

In additon to all the great emoticons, we use flowery language to express our glee. We "woo hoo!" a lot. We load up and get right on down to Wally World, Cabela's...or wherever.

Why do we do it? Here is the answer our public person gives out. I am excited to get it because I made a decision to protect my family, and myself. I decided to take off my rose-colored glasses and see the evil in this beautiful world. I decided that I would not let an innocent be harmed if I could feasibly prevent it. I took the time to learn. I studied for hours. I made an investment in a gun, gear, ammo, knives, etc. I went to the range and shot until I knew what I was doing, and then I did it with my other hand, one-handed, on my knee, from the waist. I took those head shots that I promised not to take when I signed my range agreement. I signed up for my class, paid money to the State of Texas, and to my instructor. I spent 10 hours and passed my test and shooting qualification. I took it all seriously, still take it seriously, and will put my life on the line for you and yours and pray you will do the same for me and mine.

Nothing wrong with that answer, and it is completely true. Not one ounce of fabrication in it. I do not prevaricate one iota. However, is it the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Well, one out of three ain't that good.

Here is the rest of the story. It may not apply to all of you, but dig deep and be honest here. Why did I do it? I love my gun. It gives me a quiet authority that I did not have before. This may strike you as strange since you probably will never know I have a gun on me. That is why the authority it imparts is quiet. It is not boastful and it does not brag. It does not seek to anger you, nor does it seek retribution for your slights against me. I do it because I used to be a little boy. I played cowboy, and I played cop. Cowboys and cops wear guns, and that was really cool. While no part of my mind thinks the deadly weapon I carry is part of any sort of game, it still feels pretty cool. I have loaded it with snap caps in order to practice drawing my weapon, aiming it, learning a smooth and steady trigger pull, and how to reholster it without looking. Once in awhile there may be a "bad guy" in the room, and I have to draw down on him. Yeah, he may be only in my mind, but he now knows not to mess with RJ...stupid jerk. I don't want to be a cowboy, they work to dang hard. I did want to be a cop at one time, but no longer...their lives are too complicated and dangerous. I also don't want to be some guy that looks for trouble just so I can be a hero, but I do envision scenarios in my mind, several times a day. My wife told me I was being paranoid in doing so. Ayoob, Bird, and Mann say that I am training my mind so that I do not have to go from A through Z in the event of an emergency. I will have worked through parts of it ahead of time. Would I mind being a hero that saves the day? Of course not. I pray to never have to pull my gun out of the holster "in anger", but I want to do the right thing if the time comes. I shoot zombie targets because I have never met a zombie that I liked, and probably never will. So I practice at the range. Once in awhile the target becomes something personal, or maybe it is just a target. I practice because I want to be better than you at shooting targets. I shoot because it is fun.

Sorry, I ramble. Did you see what I am trying to say? We do this thing for all the right reasons. What I may tell you, and what I may keep to myself, are equally valid, but may not be equally compelling to someone who does not carry. It seems most people who don't carry really do not understand the reasons that compel those of us who do. Because of this, we save intelligent, crisp, one-liners for them.

Do you have a "rest of the story"? If I opened up a can of worms, I apologize.

Well, maybe not! :patriot:

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Absolutely no apology necessary -- particularly on Father's Day.

As the husband/father/man of the house, I take very seriously the role of provider/protector/teacher. Incidentally, my wife takes these same roles no less seriously than me. I think I can speak for her as well when I say that each of us prays that we never have to draw our handguns in a time of dire need. Even so, we both feel strongly that failure due to lack of preparation is a shameful disgrace. Therefore, we will go through several thousand rounds a year in classes, and facing shooting scenarios to hopefully help us prepare should the need arise. Besides, what is not fun about pulling the bang-switch and making noise and holes in targets -- as long as everyone present goes home with the same number of holes in their bodies that they came with.
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I carry a gun because a Cop is too heavy (and usually late). :tiphat:
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well written, johnson!


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This being the third state I've lived in to get my "plastic" I can say the glee at recieving it feels new every time but the reasons never change.

It gives me options. Carry or not carry, run or make a stand, take control or rely on luck, defy or cower, be the hero or not, wish I had weapon or know that I do, yadda yadda yadda............

The choices are left up to me to decide at any given moment and hopefully they are the ones that lead to a long life for me and my loved ones. I like having options.
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Well now...after reading this post, I have given it some thought. The first answer is very pleasing to the ear!! Also, most people I have put that question to have generally given something like, " at least I have a 50-50 chance"...right? Not so!! We agree to only draw the weapon in self defense and shoot to stop. If you find your weapon in your hand, then someone has drawn down on you FIRST...and I assure you they mean to KILL YOU! Not stop you. You will never have a 50-50 chance unless you do go the range, put in the money and time for instruction, develop strategies to keep you and yours alive if needed, and live in the yellow zone! Do these things and you MAY have an even chance against an attacker. Odds are, the bad guys have done none of these things. And remember this, if the bad guy sees you draw your gun, and he was only bluffing before...now he has put himself in a situation to protect his OWN life and he will try to kill you! So.....practice, plan, and live in the yellow zone. Just my thoughts.
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"Getting one's Plastic" is an award.... it shows an accomplishment of generally being a fairly law abiding person; which is an accomplishment to be proud of, and the plastic is recognition of that.
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I got my plastic so I could have a better chance against rattlesnakes since I retired and moved to the country.
When 'I was younger I had 2 robbers put me on the floor with a gun to my head once, and 5 armed robbers another time, and got held at knifepoint by a guy in a college parking lot .... but now there's SNAKES !!! Also rabid skunks, 2 rabid foxes, 1 rabid horse and a rabid mule in my nearby area, and a baby skunk got in my brother's house weeks ago ...So, I got my license.... I have recognition/an award. :mrgreen:

Also, if I'm off fishing in a real secluded area and fall down a cliff etc and get hurt ... it can make more noise than my whistle to attract attention so I can be found and helped, and protect me from a bobcat etc while doing so. (Bobcats are pretty, and fairly small like a large house cat, but much more interesting looking really pretty, but never try to pet one ... don't ask how I know this)
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...I got mine because of vacuum cleaner salesmen...pesky little critters...
...seriously, I got mine to do legally what I've done since I was 14...I like being legal...
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I obtained my CHL to be able to defend myself and family in bad areas or bad times. Any other reason is just icing on the cake.
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Thanks for all of the replies...but you guys are kind of giving the first half of the truth. Is there anyone out there with a page two, so to speak? I think all of your replies thus far have been very valid, so don't get me wrong. Can anyone dig really deep and get at the inner man/woman? I guess it is asking for a lot. I can't see anyone saying they do it cause it makes them feel like an international spy...even I would think you need your head checked...but does anyone else just get a kick out of the fact that the State of Texas thinks highly enough of us to say we can carry a deadly weapon on our persons, and they trust us to be good souls about it? Doesn't it make you feel special in a warm and fuzzy way?

I guess it is a little hard to get at the intent and exact content of the question...but, please, do not hesitate to answer!

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...your question goes as deep as "what was the war like?" or "how was the sex on your wedding night?"...and you don't often open up that deep to someone you don't know real well...part one is about all you give to strangers...
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johnson0317 wrote:Thanks for all of the replies...but you guys are kind of giving the first half of the truth. Is there anyone out there with a page two, so to speak? I think all of your replies thus far have been very valid, so don't get me wrong. Can anyone dig really deep and get at the inner man/woman? I guess it is asking for a lot. I can't see anyone saying they do it cause it makes them feel like an international spy...even I would think you need your head checked...but does anyone else just get a kick out of the fact that the State of Texas thinks highly enough of us to say we can carry a deadly weapon on our persons, and they trust us to be good souls about it? Doesn't it make you feel special in a warm and fuzzy way?

I guess it is a little hard to get at the intent and exact content of the question...but, please, do not hesitate to answer!

RJ
So, who are you, and what group do you represent, and why are you data mining us? I gave my answer above: self and family defense. That's all you will get from me.
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I think you're looking for someone to say it makes them feel like a toughguy or some other more colorful adjective. It does not make me feel this way. However, it makes me feel like I'm on equal footing if a bigger/stronger individual decides he wants to try and take advantage of my stature and harm me and my family.
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Sugarland,

lol...no datamining, work for a hospitalist group, and just curious.

I guess it is because it is something I have difficulty putting into words. I think Speedsix comes close to it when he says it is something personal that we only share with our family, and we only give part one to strangers. The thing is, I am not sure we even share part two with our family, at least not all of it.

I guess it was too personal, and I thought it might be, but I also thought it was worth a shot to see if anyone else could verbalize. Whatever it is we feel, I think it is something pretty special.

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Thank you for your reply. I knew I was a good guy before the CHL processors needed to know. I would not have the job I have and would not be allowed around the people I help.

I honestly feel that the CHL in in a person's possession should stand on its own, without further need for justification. Most on this board have firearms. I believe that all who do want to legally be able to carry them for defense, not for pride.

There are many varied interests one can have. I think it is ok if one of them happens to be defense of self and family.
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