The day has come...

atxgun · #1

...no, I haven't got my plastic but I take the class tomorrow. Just got a reminder call from the instructor. I'm pretty confident after spending time around here but I still have a little bit of that anxiety like I have a final exam tomorrow or something

I'll be going to the range shortly for some warm up exercises.

Any last minute advice ?

seamusTX · #2

Relax. People pass the course who have never read or thought about this stuff before the class, and haven't shot in years.

- Jim

boomerang · #3

Relax. You'll do fine. In my class, staying awake was harder than either test.

atxgun · #4

Yeah I am a little worried about staying awake. I'm not used to having to be somewhere at 8 AM and keep going for 12 hours :) I plan to take a unisom early this evening so i can get plenty of rest and have time to wake up, eat some breakfast and chug a red bull.

Big Dom · #5

Don't sweat it. It was interesting enough for me to stay awake though not exactly exciting. Just pay attention and use common sense on the written it is very easy nobody in my class of about 30 or so failed. The range qualification isn't to see if you are a sharpshooter just that you know how to handle a weapon. I am far from an expert shooter and need plenty of practice yet passed easily. Plus if you do fail it you get to take the range portion again. Out of 30 or so we had 2 that had to requalify for a second time. Didn't stick around long enough to see if they made it or not. Point be though don't stress just enjoy yourself. I did pick up alot of good info and had some good conversation with others in the class. You'll have a great time or at least I did.

craigneasttx · #6

Well? How did it go?

biblefreak · #7

He did great I am sure, but now he is catching up on his beauty sleep! Just kidding, but I am curious how it went as well. Did you use the XD for the shooting portion?

atxgun · #8

Just got back. It was pretty much a full 12 hours. I did horribly! but passed. I only got a 236 on the shooting, I started out good but then had some bad shot and that got me nervous about messing up and so my accuracy snowballed downhill. It got so bad I had a couple completely out of the shilloute & missed one completely. In between the second and third segment the rangemaster spent a good minute looking over my target and came back to give me shooting advice, it was pretty embarrassing and that certainly didn't help my confidence. I mean if that was like my first time shooting I wouldn't care just that I know I'm better than that. Oh and the rangemaster was cracking to jokes about how "he's seen tighter patterns on shotguns" and "at least they'll be easy to score". I thought that was kind of rude to say in front of the class.

So biblefreak, the XD was great, but I choked :)

I missed 4 on the written exam! I was sure I had nailed it. There was one of those "except" questions I messed up. Another I realized I had just misread the question completely. Another I missed thinking it was a 90 way suspension instead of a 30. The last was toward the end which I knew but changed my answer last minutes b/c I was convinced it was trying to be a trick question some how :)

Interesting thing, I asked the same question I had posted a topic on here before: Is verbal disclosure failure to conceal. The consensus here seemed to be that it wasn't. He didn't even hesitate to say that it was and was cause for revocation. I didn't want to waste class time saying "well, i read on the internet..." and as it would be stupid to do so anyway I just left it at that.

He also talked about illegal 30.06 signs and other things like that since apparently a bunch of austin city buildings and schools have them, despite being in violation of the law. His take on it was just wait until the courts straighten them out so you don't have to be the case law setting the precedent straight.

Sadly enough I didn't get to come back w/ a good "class idiot" story

(Well unless you count my bad marksmanship )

My brain is so fried though from sitting through that all day I think i'll wait until another day to completely my address history and what not.

atxgun · #9

Oh I also meant to say, as a whole I enjoyed the class. The instructor was very easy to pay attention to and offered good scenarios. chl-texas.com gets my 2 thumbs up.

craigneasttx · #10

Congrats.....we knew you'd get through it, I just dont think you knew you would. Anyway, welcome to the misery of waiting for the plastic!!

rockhill · #11

[My brain is so fried though from sitting through that all day I think i'll wait until another day to completely my address history and what not.[/quote]

Ther is a saying that goes "..the mind can only absorb as much as the butt can endure.." Sitting thru a long day like that proves the point very well, then they want you to go to the range and qualify!

Congratulations on passing and now you get to learn patience...

txinvestigator · #12

atxgun wrote:Interesting thing, I asked the same question I had posted a topic on here before: Is verbal disclosure failure to conceal. The consensus here seemed to be that it wasn't. He didn't even hesitate to say that it was and was cause for revocation. I didn't want to waste class time saying "well, i read on the internet..." and as it would be stupid to do so anyway I just left it at that.

Texas Penal Code
Â§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

Texas Government Code
Â§ 411.171. DEFINITIONS

(3) "Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence
of which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a
reasonable person.

Now you have seen the actual law. ;)

atxgun · #13

txinvestigator wrote:
atxgun wrote:Interesting thing, I asked the same question I had posted a topic on here before: Is verbal disclosure failure to conceal. The consensus here seemed to be that it wasn't. He didn't even hesitate to say that it was and was cause for revocation. I didn't want to waste class time saying "well, i read on the internet..." and as it would be stupid to do so anyway I just left it at that.

Texas Penal Code
Â§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

Texas Government Code
Â§ 411.171. DEFINITIONS

(3) "Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence
of which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a
reasonable person.

Now you have seen the actual law. ;)

Well TXI, I don't see where it limits observation to "visual observation". An ordinary personal observing with their ears would make the presence of your handgun openly discernible if you said "I am carrying". Every dictionary definition I look at doesn't limit "observing" to your eyes but says "with the senses". Maybe the law defines what "observation" means for them.

Again either way I don't think I'll test this one in practice :)