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BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:26 pm
by suthdj
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Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:40 pm
by stroo
If I am reading this right, it also bans most common 7.62x39 ammo too.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:44 pm
by K.Mooneyham
This seems like one of those things where they haven't got any traction in other areas, so they are going to make things uncomfortable for American firearms owners any way they can. Specifically, by banning M855 from sale and therefore forcing prices up by artificially reducing the supply.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:02 pm
by suthdj
Is this just ball ammo or does it include SP an HP?

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:07 pm
by C-dub
stroo wrote:If I am reading this right, it also bans most common 7.62x39 ammo too.
Whoa! Where did you get that? I don't see it. Is there a handgun that fires 7.62x39? I think that is one of the requirements for their messed up reasoning.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:46 pm
by LSUTiger
AK pistols 7.62x39

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Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:49 pm
by The Annoyed Man
suthdj wrote:Is this just ball ammo or does it include SP an HP?
It is specific to M855, on the reasoning that it is "armor-piercing" ball ammo. Standard 55 grain FMJ would be unaffected.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:54 pm
by anygunanywhere
This fits nicely with the proposed ban on citizen owned body armor.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:04 pm
by C-dub
M855 doesn't even fit with their own definition of AP ammunition.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:10 pm
by anygunanywhere
C-dub wrote:M855 doesn't even fit with their own definition of AP ammunition.
Since when does what the ATF much less any fed agency or department do have to make sense or fit any rule of law?

:mrgreen:

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:11 pm
by SRH78
C-dub wrote:
stroo wrote:If I am reading this right, it also bans most common 7.62x39 ammo too.
Whoa! Where did you get that? I don't see it. Is there a handgun that fires 7.62x39? I think that is one of the requirements for their messed up reasoning.
Of course there is, the Draco.

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Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:48 pm
by C-dub
SRH78 wrote:
C-dub wrote:
stroo wrote:If I am reading this right, it also bans most common 7.62x39 ammo too.
Whoa! Where did you get that? I don't see it. Is there a handgun that fires 7.62x39? I think that is one of the requirements for their messed up reasoning.
Of course there is, the Draco.

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Oh yeah. I remember in the past thinking that thing must be a bear to fire with the recoil.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:55 pm
by SigM4
Well just about everyone is now sold out of M855, when you do find it its prohibitively expensive. So at least for now the ATF is getting what it wants. I will say I hope everyone will take a moment to lodge a comment on the ATF's website against this proposed change. Just like with the NFA Trust issue if they get enough that it takes them forever to respond to each one, we can successfully delay the change for a while if not outright kill it.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:03 pm
by C-dub
Maybe while everyone is trying to snatch up every round of M855 they can find they will ignore the .22LR and that will become easier to find soon.

Re: BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:24 pm
by Oldgringo
Where is the US congress? You know, the body that is supposed to pass the laws in this republic.