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Re: Ted Cruz not voting?

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Jason K wrote:
Rex B wrote:Looks like Ted is back to voting. He and Cornyn voted on a couple dozen resolutions, amendments and even a bill or two.
Amazingly, he and Cornyn voted alike on all but two issues. I think that's a first! One has to wonder, is he working with Cornyn now because he needs his support in the presidential bid?
Probably the opposite.....Cornyn knows that Cruz is showing him to be the Rockefeller Republican that he is. Cornyn needs some conservative cred before people start noticing....
Not getting where you're getting that. Cornyn has been historically been one of the most conservative members in Congress based on his votes. if you're No True Scotsmanning him then thats a problem.

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Re: Ted Cruz not voting?

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Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Jason K wrote:
Rex B wrote:Looks like Ted is back to voting. He and Cornyn voted on a couple dozen resolutions, amendments and even a bill or two.
Amazingly, he and Cornyn voted alike on all but two issues. I think that's a first! One has to wonder, is he working with Cornyn now because he needs his support in the presidential bid?
Probably the opposite.....Cornyn knows that Cruz is showing him to be the Rockefeller Republican that he is. Cornyn needs some conservative cred before people start noticing....
Not getting where you're getting that. Cornyn has been historically been one of the most conservative members in Congress based on his votes. if you're No True Scotsmanning him then thats a problem.
http://immigrationstance.diggersrealm.c ... liens.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Overall, Senator John Cornyn has a moderate record when it comes to immigration reform.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/11/politics/ ... -security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Washington (CNN)—Republicans will still try to block President Barack Obama from implementing his immigration overhaul -- but they won't risk funding for the Department of Homeland Security to do it, Sen. John Cornyn says.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... re-bubble/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The top two Republicans in the Senate made clear Monday they will not join Cruz's call for a filibuster of a government funding bill that cleared the House last week. Their decisions signaled that the fiery freshman's plan isn't good politics even for Republicans facing conservative primary threats and reinforced a widely held view that it won't work in practice.
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Re: Ted Cruz not voting?

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Rex B wrote:If he doesn't get the nomination, I sure hope he gets picked for AG. He is perfect for that role.
This is exactly what I'm hoping for.
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Re: Ted Cruz not voting?

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Jason K wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Jason K wrote:
Rex B wrote:Looks like Ted is back to voting. He and Cornyn voted on a couple dozen resolutions, amendments and even a bill or two.
Amazingly, he and Cornyn voted alike on all but two issues. I think that's a first! One has to wonder, is he working with Cornyn now because he needs his support in the presidential bid?
Probably the opposite.....Cornyn knows that Cruz is showing him to be the Rockefeller Republican that he is. Cornyn needs some conservative cred before people start noticing....
Not getting where you're getting that. Cornyn has been historically been one of the most conservative members in Congress based on his votes. if you're No True Scotsmanning him then thats a problem.
http://immigrationstance.diggersrealm.c ... liens.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Overall, Senator John Cornyn has a moderate record when it comes to immigration reform.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/11/politics/ ... -security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Washington (CNN)—Republicans will still try to block President Barack Obama from implementing his immigration overhaul -- but they won't risk funding for the Department of Homeland Security to do it, Sen. John Cornyn says.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... re-bubble/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The top two Republicans in the Senate made clear Monday they will not join Cruz's call for a filibuster of a government funding bill that cleared the House last week. Their decisions signaled that the fiery freshman's plan isn't good politics even for Republicans facing conservative primary threats and reinforced a widely held view that it won't work in practice.
Need more?....

Yes actually. Not going along with shutting down the government in this manner doesn't make him a liberal. It just makes sure he's not suicidal.
I see the No True Scotsman argument is in fact being applied here.

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Re: Ted Cruz not voting?

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Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Jason K wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Jason K wrote:
Rex B wrote:Looks like Ted is back to voting. He and Cornyn voted on a couple dozen resolutions, amendments and even a bill or two.
Amazingly, he and Cornyn voted alike on all but two issues. I think that's a first! One has to wonder, is he working with Cornyn now because he needs his support in the presidential bid?
Probably the opposite.....Cornyn knows that Cruz is showing him to be the Rockefeller Republican that he is. Cornyn needs some conservative cred before people start noticing....
Not getting where you're getting that. Cornyn has been historically been one of the most conservative members in Congress based on his votes. if you're No True Scotsmanning him then thats a problem.
http://immigrationstance.diggersrealm.c ... liens.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Overall, Senator John Cornyn has a moderate record when it comes to immigration reform.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/11/politics/ ... -security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Washington (CNN)—Republicans will still try to block President Barack Obama from implementing his immigration overhaul -- but they won't risk funding for the Department of Homeland Security to do it, Sen. John Cornyn says.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... re-bubble/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The top two Republicans in the Senate made clear Monday they will not join Cruz's call for a filibuster of a government funding bill that cleared the House last week. Their decisions signaled that the fiery freshman's plan isn't good politics even for Republicans facing conservative primary threats and reinforced a widely held view that it won't work in practice.
Need more?....

Yes actually. Not going along with shutting down the government in this manner doesn't make him a liberal. It just makes sure he's not suicidal.
I see the No True Scotsman argument is in fact being applied here.
http://www.freedomworks.org/content/sen ... -bad-votes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's ten more....the rest I'll let you Google.....after you show me why you think Cornyn is the conservative superior to Ted Cruz. :totap:

BTW, what you consider "suicidal" is what I consider "standing on principal". Cruz seems to do that much better than Cornyn.

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Re: Ted Cruz not voting?

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I'm not the only one noticing Ted's absence.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/t ... 17201.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

While I'm OK with him running for president, I think it's too soon and will not succeed.
But in the meantime, we sent him to DC to do a job.

If he were my employee, he would be gone by now. I have fired more than one employee that I really liked, because they were not doing the job. Especially if he was out looking for his next job instead of doing the one I pay him for now.

just sayin'.
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Re: Ted Cruz not voting?

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Apr 28, 2015 6:10 p.m. — Vote

S.Amdt. 1150 (Johnson) to H.R. 1191: To declare that any agreement reached by the President relating to the nuclear program of Iran is deemed a treaty that is subject to the advice and consent of the Senate..

Amendment Rejected 39/57

Sen. Cornyn [R-TX]: Yea

Sen. Cruz [R-TX]: Not Voting
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