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Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:10 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
I have not reloaded for about 20 years. I still have all my equipment. RCBS single stage and everything I need to get going again. I am specifically interested in loading .38 special, .357 magnum, 44 special, 44 magnum. I have tungsten carbide dies. Are these still considered "the stuff" or have they invented something more space age? LOL... I may move up to a digital scale.
I need powder, primers and bullets. Could I persuade some of you to give advice on best places to purchase these items. Maybe bring me up to date on advancements that have made life easier since the "olden days". I believe I remember using Blue Dot for my 38/357 mag and unique 2400 for my 44/44 mag. These powders still around or something better?
Oh... my reloading books are all at least 25 years old... I can't imagine how the loads in them could have changed much. Anyone want to throw in on this as well?
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:22 pm
by natgas
Carbide dies are still the 'thing'!
Powder Valley is a great place for primers/powder
I only use bullets from Precision Delta so I have no other suggestions.
I'll let others reply on the rest
Good to have you back in the game
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:24 am
by 03Lightningrocks
Can I buy powder and primers online?
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:24 am
by natgas
03Lightningrocks wrote:Can I buy powder and primers online?
See above---Powder Valley
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:27 am
by Jumping Frog
03Lightningrocks wrote:Can I buy powder and primers online?
I would suggest no to start with.
You are still getting started and will likely want to try different powders and loads for a while until you zero in enough to want to buy in bulk.
There is a $25 flat HazMat shipping fee added to online orders in addition to normal freight charges. So purchasing one lb of powder for $20 becomes probibitively expensive when you tack another $30 in shipping and HazMat on the order. Getting started, I would buy from a local store or at a gun show, even though your cost per lb will be a little higher.
However, after you know exactly the brands you want to stock, you can save a fair amount buying online. For example, purchase 16 lbs of powder and 10,000 primers for roughly $525, and the $25 HazMat fee is only about 5% of the cost (and is actually less than sales tax). Depending on how much you shoot, that stock can last a while.
If you do not want to buy that much by yourself, getting local like-minded people to participate in a group buy is another option.
But for right now, I'd start with one lb of powder and 1,000 primers purchased locally. Then experiment by sampling other kinds of powders one lb at a time. You don't want to buy a 16 lb jug of Unique, for example, only to decide you like Universal better.
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:13 am
by Grillmark55
First I would consider getting a new book with load data. No, I don't think that much has changed, but why risk it, especially if you start trying new loads.
I currently hand load 357 magnum, 9mm and 45 ACP. I started out using Hodgden TiteGroup in the 357 Magnum cartridges (4.5 grains for a 125 gr lead bullet). I had an opportunity to try some IMR Trail Boss and I was hooked. The weight for the same bullet dropped to 4 grains, but at that weight, a double charge completely fills the brass, so no chance of a double charge (not so with most other powders). Only have a couple hundred rounds through my Smith & Wesson, but not one bit of problem with leading, and the recoil is much less than when I was using TiteGroup. The accuracy is right there too.
I agree with the mail order comment - once you pay the Hazmat fee you are paying more. There are a few places in Houston that send email updates when they get supplies in, but not a clue about what is in the Dallas area. This forum and Google are great resources!
Good luck - and welcome back!
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:20 am
by 03Lightningrocks
Some great advice coming here! Makes sense to hold off on buying online until I get a proper load figured out. That is a pretty good size fee and I had no thoughts of buying large amounts of powder at the start. I also see the question about using my older books has been answered. I will get some new loading books.
Thanks folks!!! Time for me to start looking for a couple good reloading books.
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:32 am
by Grillmark55
03Lightningrocks wrote:Some great advice coming here! Makes sense to hold off on buying online until I get a proper load figured out. That is a pretty good size fee and I had no thoughts of buying large amounts of powder at the start. I also see the question about using my older books has been answered. I will get some new loading books.
Thanks folks!!! Time for me to start looking for a couple good reloading books.
One other thought - not sure about stores in your area, but one store here in Houston (10Ring) has quite a few books out so that their customers can come in and look up loads without having to buy the entire book.
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:23 pm
by ghostrider
I believe I remember using Blue Dot for my 38/357 mag and unique 2400 for my 44/44 mag. These powders still around or something better?
I like both of those powders, but what has changed is that Alliant no long recommends Blue Dot for 357 magnum loads with 125gr bullets. Heavier bullets are fine, but then you can load heavy 357 and 44 mag loads with 2400.
Look at Alliant's site for data:
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/ ... ?gtypeid=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You can also request a printed copy of their data:
http://www.alliantpowder.com/resources/catalog.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:42 pm
by ghostrider
here's the Blue Dot warning:
http://www.alliantpowder.com/getting_st ... tices.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:36 am
by MoJo
I used to use Blue Dot, but since the warning put out by Alliant and a guy I know blowing uo a gun with it I turned what I had left of it into fertilizer. 2400 is still a great magnum powder as is H110 and WW296. I use mostly Unique and Titegroup now days.
Bullets, there a lot of options now, I like the plated bullets made by Berry and Rainier along with the coated bullets made by Precision and Bayou. I rarely use jacketed bullets in handguns when I do I like the Nosler sporting handgun bullets.
Oh yes, +1 on a digital scale, just don't get rid of your balance scale you will still find uses for it.
Re: Back to reloading...some info would be of help...
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:31 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Wow... Good info. Thanks folks! Things change when you are away from it twenty years.