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ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:19 am
by philip964
https://news.yahoo.com/maine-man-dies-b ... 44793.html
Not experienced with guns. Frustrated by robberies at his home and lack of help from authorities, set up booby traps in his home.
Was killed by the one at the front door. Bomb squad had to be called to clear the house.
Probably never a good idea. I also thought illegal in most places.
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:50 am
by oljames3
Attorney Andrew Branca discusses this incident:
https://lawofselfdefense.com/blog/
... Law of Self Defense Post of the Day, which involves the use of booby traps in defense of property ...
Paywalled after 3 days.
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:52 am
by crazy2medic
That's why it's called a BOOBY TRAP!
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:08 pm
by K-Texas
Like one of my favorite comedians would say, "that guy needed a sign!" While he was still above ground, anyway. You can't fix stupid.
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:39 pm
by Soccerdad1995
Legal or not, I would never set these up for precisely this reason. I have an alarm on the door to the room where I keep my gun safes that is separate from my home alarm system (maybe I am paranoid?), and I can't count the number of times I have set that alarm off because I forgot to disarm it.
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:00 pm
by philip964
oljames3 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:50 am
Attorney Andrew Branca discusses this incident:
https://lawofselfdefense.com/blog/
... Law of Self Defense Post of the Day, which involves the use of booby traps in defense of property ...
Paywalled after 3 days.
Yes, not allowed by law. Does not distinguish between a burglar and a fireman.
Deadly force not allowed in protection of property, except in Texas he points out. (at night)
He shows why barbed wire is ok.
Deadly force inside a home is protection of persons, not property.
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:54 pm
by Soccerdad1995
philip964 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:00 pm
oljames3 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:50 am
Attorney Andrew Branca discusses this incident:
https://lawofselfdefense.com/blog/
... Law of Self Defense Post of the Day, which involves the use of booby traps in defense of property ...
Paywalled after 3 days.
Yes, not allowed by law. Does not distinguish between a burglar and a fireman.
Deadly force not allowed in protection of property, except in Texas he points out. (at night)
He shows why barbed wire is ok.
Deadly force inside a home is protection of persons, not property.
IMHO, the best burglar deterrents are low key. Like planting thick rose bushes outside your windows, etc.
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:31 pm
by Mike S
Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:54 pm
philip964 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:00 pm
oljames3 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:50 am
Attorney Andrew Branca discusses this incident:
https://lawofselfdefense.com/blog/
... Law of Self Defense Post of the Day, which involves the use of booby traps in defense of property ...
Paywalled after 3 days.
Yes, not allowed by law. Does not distinguish between a burglar and a fireman.
Deadly force not allowed in protection of property, except in Texas he points out. (at night)
He shows why barbed wire is ok.
Deadly force inside a home is protection of persons, not property.
IMHO, the best burglar deterrents are low key. Like planting thick rose bushes outside your windows, etc.
What you're describing is "Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design" (CPTED). Here's a pretty good free reference, followed by a more succinct article summarizing key points:
https://www.chandlerpd.com/wp-content/u ... 2016-1.pdf
https://westseattleblog.com/2011/03/hos ... h-network/
Rose bushes would be specifically called "hostile vegetation". Others examples can be found here:
http://www.summit-university.org/the-po ... -your-home
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:41 pm
by Mike S
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:43 pm
by Daddio-on-patio
https://ibb.co/nkQ0FZ1
Love the "Related Stories" link.....
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:35 pm
by clarionite
My grandparents had Holly bushes planted in front of all the windows. Growing up I thought they were just ornamental, until I forgot my key and tried to get in one of the windows. I told my grandpa that I'd cut myself in several places getting in. He told me that was what the bushes were there for. To prevent people from coming in the windows.
I always remembered that, and planted Agave, Prickly pair and Cane Cholla Cactus outside of the bedroom windows of my house in Texas.
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:49 pm
by anygunanywhere
clarionite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:35 pm
My grandparents had Holly bushes planted in front of all the windows. Growing up I thought they were just ornamental, until I forgot my key and tried to get in one of the windows. I told my grandpa that I'd cut myself in several places getting in. He told me that was what the bushes were there for. To prevent people from coming in the windows.
I always remembered that, and planted Agave, Prickly pair and Cane Cholla Cactus outside of the bedroom windows of my house in Texas.
What if you have to climb out of the window?
Re: ME: Man shot and killed by his own front door booby trap
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:55 pm
by clarionite
anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:49 pm
clarionite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:35 pm
My grandparents had Holly bushes planted in front of all the windows. Growing up I thought they were just ornamental, until I forgot my key and tried to get in one of the windows. I told my grandpa that I'd cut myself in several places getting in. He told me that was what the bushes were there for. To prevent people from coming in the windows.
I always remembered that, and planted Agave, Prickly pair and Cane Cholla Cactus outside of the bedroom windows of my house in Texas.
What if you have to climb out of the window?
If it's an emergency then you'll just deal with the cactus. But I never had an unintended visitor in my children's room through the windows.
It probably didn't hurt that I explained to my daughter that I knew she wasn't stupid enough to have a boy in her room without my knowledge, so If I found someone in her room at night I'd assume it was an intruder and deal with them accordingly.
