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A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:51 pm
by oljames3
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/sfl ... story.html
"A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Josmel Herrera, 43, accidentally shot himself while "explaining the proper way to clean a firearm" on a video call with a family member, according to the Miami-Dade Police Department.
Miami-Dade Fire Rescue received several calls about a shooting inside a home in the 10600 block of Southwest 27th Street just before 7:30 p.m.
Paramedics performed emergency care and took Herrera to Kendall Regional Trauma Center, where he died.
The investigation is ongoing, police said."
1. All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (For those who insist that this particular gun is unloaded, see Rule 1.)
3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of inadvertent discharges.
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:14 pm
by Countryside
Other than pointing the gun at his chest and pulling the trigger, I wonder what other helpful tips he offered?
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:42 pm
by Jago668
I don't care how unloaded I know my gun is. I'm not going to point it at myself and pull the trigger. I won't look down the barrel until it is in pieces on my cleaning mat. When the slide, barrel, frame, and spring are all in separate spots you should be safe. I say should because I refuse to rule anything out when human stupidity and laziness is involved.
All that said still sorry for his family's loss. Always bad to see someone go when there was no reason for it.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:31 pm
by C-dub
It used to give me the creeps to look down the barrel to see how clean it was even when the gun had been disassembled and the barrel removed from the gun. I used to do this like peering over the side of a cliff or something.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:05 am
by baldeagle
C-dub wrote:It used to give me the creeps to look down the barrel to see how clean it was even when the gun had been disassembled and the barrel removed from the gun. I used to do this like peering over the side of a cliff or something.
You're looking down the business end. Turn the barrel around and look down the receiver end, and you'll find that the fear subsides.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:14 am
by carlson1
Most insurance companies do not pay for suicides. Maybe he wanted it to look like an accident. I have seen this several times in my past career.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:24 am
by twomillenium
carlson1 wrote:Most insurance companies do not pay for suicides. Maybe he wanted it to look like an accident. I have seen this several times in my past career.
Some pay double for accidental death.
That being said, I still say prayers for his family and loved ones.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:33 am
by carlson1
twomillenium wrote:carlson1 wrote:Most insurance companies do not pay for suicides. Maybe he wanted it to look like an accident. I have seen this several times in my past career.
Some pay double for accidental death.
That being said, I still say prayers for his family and loved ones.
prayers for the whole family. It is a tragedy either way.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:43 am
by Abraham
It's my understanding life insurance policies cover suicide once 2 years have elapsed.
Some of you insurance folk correct me please if I'm wrong.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:52 am
by carlson1
Abraham wrote:It's my understanding life insurance policies cover suicide once 2 years have elapsed.
Some of you insurance folk correct me please if I'm wrong.
I would think there are some out there that may pay after two years. I do know our policies will not, but like was said above it does pays double if it was an accident.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:39 am
by tomneal
Abraham ยป Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:43 am
It's my understanding life insurance policies cover suicide once 2 years have elapsed.
Some of you insurance folk correct me please if I'm wrong.
I am not an expert on insurance.
A buddy told me a long time ago that Life Insurance doesn't get paid if you are committing a felony. For example,
If you get killed while trying to rob a bank, then your widow doesn't get paid.
In Texas it is a felony to commit suicide.
I've never tried to look this up. It just seemed too creepy.
However,
I would not be surprised to find out this to be true.
Insurance companies send lobbyists to Austin, every other state capital, and Washington D.C.
So...
If the fear of god doesn't keep you from suicide, you can add the fear that the insurance companies will cheat your widow out of the money.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:07 pm
by Deltaboy
Sad story. Prayers sent for His Family.
Re: A man died Tuesday night after he shot himself in the chest while cleaning his gun, police said.
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:45 am
by C-dub
baldeagle wrote:C-dub wrote:It used to give me the creeps to look down the barrel to see how clean it was even when the gun had been disassembled and the barrel removed from the gun. I used to do this like peering over the side of a cliff or something.
You're looking down the business end. Turn the barrel around and look down the receiver end, and you'll find that the fear subsides.
I look from either direction now without the slightest bit of angst once it has been removed. However, that was still funny.
