
The Three Headed Monster: A True Story
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Makes me think I need to lawyer up even though I have never been in any serious trouble. Not that I haven't tried 

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Quite a story, everyone should read this!!
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Scary to think of all these DA's out there who are more for their precious record and winning then justice.
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Interesting.
I am in agreement with Mr. Hickey when he states that this incident could have been avoided with alternate courses of action. However....hindsight.........etc....
I am in agreement with Mr. Hickey when he states that this incident could have been avoided with alternate courses of action. However....hindsight.........etc....
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. In a case like this I don't see how ALL evidence doesn't apply to the case. No pictures of the gunshot wounds, until they were discovered later by a very truthful physician who wasn't sure how accurate her previous testimony was. How is it that no one bothered to ask the physician if any pictures were taken of the patients after the shooting? What about pictures of the scene? Anyone can see the blood in the driveway, and what about the spent cases? If you combine the gunshot wound pictures with the evidence in the driveway, I don't see how you can't KNOW how things took place.
I do understand how hard it must be for some people to get past shooting 2 unarmed assailants (one of which was a woman), but come on it was obvious that they were lying. That would lead anyone with a logical mind to ask "Why are they lying? What are they trying to hide?".
I agree about the situation changing when the man joined the two women and started his assault on the victim. At that point I would have done the same thing and pulled my gun to defend myself and my family before I was down for the count.
This just goes to show how the system can let you down.
In the end, I'm just glad I live in Texas...
I do understand how hard it must be for some people to get past shooting 2 unarmed assailants (one of which was a woman), but come on it was obvious that they were lying. That would lead anyone with a logical mind to ask "Why are they lying? What are they trying to hide?".

I agree about the situation changing when the man joined the two women and started his assault on the victim. At that point I would have done the same thing and pulled my gun to defend myself and my family before I was down for the count.
This just goes to show how the system can let you down.
In the end, I'm just glad I live in Texas...

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the system can fail anywhere. it is a human system afterall. the system failed my exwife years ago. my father and his g/f were splitting up and she walked into MY house to retrieve a dog that she had given us. there was a scuffle between her and my wife trying to retrieve our dog and the g/f recieved some scratches and she left. we called the cops and told them what happened and then went over to her place. the cops took my wifes info cause the g/f reported assault and showed the scratches. No one ever bothered with the fact she entered my house unauthorized and stole my property. The next week at 4am the sheriff's office arrested my wife and booked her for assault. after bailing her out and waiting for a year the judge tossed out the case but it still cost money and headache. Bottom line was my dad was on the sheriff''s department bad side after several incidents with them and they chose to take out their frustration on my wife and press fraudulent charges. Always make nice with the LEO in your area, it may bite you in the rear if you are on their bad side.
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This is what can happen when you're nice to bad guys. Instead of pussy footing around with soft hands, it would have been better if his wife (the person being attacked) shot all three bad guys COM, several times.
She calls 911 and the story is a woman defending herself when she was attacked in her driveway.
She calls 911 and the story is a woman defending herself when she was attacked in her driveway.
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I read through it all last night, but took away a few things:
1) Talking freely/requesting legal representation/providing a path to investigate isn't always the best option.
2) Get the best lawyer you can afford.
3) Be an active advocate for yourself in your defense team's strategy.
4) They're a business trying to sell their services.
I was curious about the civil trial prior to the conclusion of the criminal trial. Is that possible here? If it is, would the decision from the civil trail be reversed?
1) Talking freely/requesting legal representation/providing a path to investigate isn't always the best option.
2) Get the best lawyer you can afford.
3) Be an active advocate for yourself in your defense team's strategy.
4) They're a business trying to sell their services.
I was curious about the civil trial prior to the conclusion of the criminal trial. Is that possible here? If it is, would the decision from the civil trail be reversed?
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Wow, what a read. It's sad to see the powers in charge ignore the physical evidence so blatantly. This should have never gone to trial. 

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This article has made me rethink the possibility of getting a pre-paid lawyer. That guy spent months in jail.
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Re: The Three Headed Monster: A True Story
Yes it is interesting. Same story I pointed to in this thread Why you shouldn't talk to the police, as a one example of what might happen when you don't give the police something to go with (or the police refuse to listen) and they get all their info from your opponents.
This story is of course from the defendent's view, but it does seem the prosecution was only interested in evidence that would aid a conviction, which is a gross dereliction of responsibility.
This story is of course from the defendent's view, but it does seem the prosecution was only interested in evidence that would aid a conviction, which is a gross dereliction of responsibility.
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Based on the account given, what you had was an ideologically motivated prosecutor willing to lie to serve an ideological agenda.
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This is scary stuff. Glad I live in Texas, and also glad that I get along with most all of my neighbors (except the guy behind me and he is the non-violent sort, I think).
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Amazing read. I too reiterate the fact that this should be read by everyone, including the Harold Fish story as well.
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