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Cowlitz County Prosecutor Sue Baur said she will not prosecute a Kelso man who shot an arrow into the buttock of a suspected fleeing burglar late last year, but insisted Friday she is not encouraging vigilante justice.

I'm sorry, but I am laughing my rear off at this. The mental picture of a perp running with a lumenok hanging out of a cheek is just too funny not to laugh at.

"He still has a limp," she said.

what a shame..... not. maybe he'll remember it next time.
the guy should have used a aluminum shaft arrow, go ahead and brake that off.
I also willing to bet that left a mark.
Great outcome.

pbwalker wrote:http://tdn.com/news/local/article_119bf ... 002e0.html

Cowlitz County Prosecutor Sue Baur said she will not prosecute a Kelso man who shot an arrow into the buttock of a suspected fleeing burglar late last year, but insisted Friday she is not encouraging vigilante justice.

I'm sorry, but I am laughing my rear off at this. The mental picture of a perp running with a lumenok hanging out of a cheek is just too funny not to laugh at.

I am thinking about the guy walking around for six months with an arrowhead in his backside.

"If someone chooses to use force on a fleeing felon, their facts better be right - and the likelihood of that is very rare," Baur said. "So you take your chances, and that's why we want you to leave it up to the police. We don't want people taking chances with their own safety, bystander's safety."

The likelihood of that is very "rear". Sorry I couldn't help myself.

Wow, mommy really loves her baby boy what she brought up all proper and all. She must be so proud.

The shooter in this case is fortunate that his actions fit into the narrow legal justifications for the use of deadly force. Most states do not allow the use of deadly force to protect or recover stolen property, and none allow as much leeway as Texas.

Also a reminder that "arms" are not just firearms.

- Jim

Criminals get what's coming to them in the end.

Schwingdorf shot Crayne, also 33, from a distance of about 90 feet, Baur said.

While the target was running? I'm not big on shooting arrows, but that seems like a decent shot.

megs wrote:Criminals get what's coming to them in the end.

HA! :)

To purposely fire a nonfatal shot with an arrow that has a curved trajectory at a running target at night with limited lighting while under stress during a possibly armed robbery (you don't know for sure what is in the running felon's pockets)... wow! This dude is Robin Hood!

seamusTX wrote:Wow, mommy really loves her baby boy what she brought up all proper and all. She must be so proud.

Not half! I found her talk of "rights" particularly galling.

drjoker wrote:To purposely fire a nonfatal shot with an arrow that has a curved trajectory at a running target at night with limited lighting while under stress during a possibly armed robbery (you don't know for sure what is in the running felon's pockets)... wow! This dude is Robin Hood!

Sounds more like luck. Having been a fairly proficient bow hunter for many years I can tell you with the new bows and speed of the arrows and the fairly flat trajectory on some of them, hitting a target at 30 yards which is moving directly away from you at the speed a human runs would not be that hard. I think the fact that it hit the guy in the buttocks was just lucky (for the guy getting hit that is.) I'll guarantee you the guy with the bow was just shooting at the person running away and didn't pick his shot to hit the guy in the posterior, that is just where the arrow hit.

It's lucky for everyone involved that the injury was [I can't help myself] the butt of jokes rather then fatal or permanently disabling.

In her statement [the prosecutor] said: "Had Mr. Schwingdorf acted with intent other than to stop a fleeing felon, or had the force used resulted in death, or had any of his assumptions been incorrect, his actions would be outside the realm of necessary or reasonable, and the charging decision would likely be different."

You can tell she wanted to nail the guy.

- Jim

Keith B wrote:

drjoker wrote:To purposely fire a nonfatal shot with an arrow that has a curved trajectory at a running target at night with limited lighting while under stress during a possibly armed robbery (you don't know for sure what is in the running felon's pockets)... wow! This dude is Robin Hood!

Sounds more like luck. Having been a fairly proficient bow hunter for many years I can tell you with the new bows and speed of the arrows and the fairly flat trajectory on some of them, hitting a target at 30 yards which is moving directly away from you at the speed a human runs would not be that hard. I think the fact that it hit the guy in the buttocks was just lucky (for the guy getting hit that is.) I'll guarantee you the guy with the bow was just shooting at the person running away and didn't pick his shot to hit the guy in the posterior, that is just where the arrow hit.

I was thinking the same thing. (Other than the proficient bow hunter part, I can't hit the broad side of a barn with a bow.) Either this guy is one heck of a shot to intentionally hit the guy in the buttocks, or more likely IMO, he was aiming center of mass and the shot went low. Had he hit where he was aiming, things might have been worse for him.