CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

[seniorshooteress]

Were these dispatch tapes "leaked" or actually submitted by LVPD to the public?

[KFP]

From what I understand, the tapes were not officially released by LVMPD. It appears to me that someone has a scanner set up to record through their computer and decided to post the recording to youtube. I have seen speculation that the tape was unofficially leaked by Metro or an officer to help their case; I've seen speculation that the tape was edited prior to release - I don't have a theory personally, but do find the lack of video concerning.

[Hoi Polloi]

Were these dispatch tapes "leaked" or actually submitted by LVPD to the public?

To clarify, these are not dispatch tapes. These are radio traffic tapes. Many people, from journalists to HAM operators to retired LEO to random citizens, have police scanners that listens to the radio traffic. This is a recording from one. It does not include recordings from the phone call to dispatch, just what dispatch radioed to the field.

[Oldgringo]

...if he were black, the whole darned country would be screaming for justice....

ABSOLUTELY TRUE! The race card is unidirectional and that makes me nauseous...to say the least.

[seniorshooteress]

Another candle light vigil is scheduled to go on at the same time as the one in LV at the Costco store in Lanchaster, CA. Should be one organised to take place at every Costco in the US at the same time. The more the better. 8/10/10 Tuesday 9 pm

[WildBill]

Latest news report with Erik Scott's attorney.

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It puzzles me is that only one gun was mentioned, which Erik Scott carried IWB. Previous versions of the story report two handguns.

Also, I am wondering about the so-called "irratic behavior" of Erik Scott. It doesn't see to be on the 911 call and they have no witnesses that reported any behavior out of the ordinary. Where and when did this information appear?

I listened to the complete LV police scanner tape last night. There was voice traffic by some officer reporting that the manager (or management type person) said that Scott was behaving erratically. There was also a report on the tape that some management type in the store was on a land-line with the police describing where Scott was, and descriptions of him and his girlfriend. Voice traffic also states several time he had a 413 (firearm) tucked in the back of his pants.

What shocks me no end is how casually the ambulance was summoned. I did not time how long it was between "shots fired" and the ambulance showed up...but it was w-a-a-y too long. This in spite of the fact that the police had requested a medical unit to be on standby either across the street or within a block of Costco.

Then there is the shocking report from the scene that the subject is in custody! Again this was over 5 minutes after "shots fired".

You have to take the time to listen to the whole thing.

Around 6 minutes into the first tape, I heard the dispatcher say that the [Costco] Manager was a Green Beret and had permission to carry a 413 [firearm]. I can see telling the dispatcher about the manager carrying a gun, but why the bit about being a Green Beret?

[Hoi Polloi]

Around 6 minutes into the first tape, I heard the dispatcher say that the [Costco] Manager was a Green Beret and had permission to carry a 413 [firearm]. I can see telling the dispatcher about the manager carrying a gun, but why the bit about being a Green Beret?

A fellow CHL holder should have known better! Unbelievable!

Edited to fix quote boxes.

[seniorshooteress]

You have to take the time to listen to the whole thing.

Around 6 minutes into the first tape, I heard the dispatcher say that the [Costco] Manager was a Green Beret and had permission to carry a 413 [firearm]. I can see telling the dispatcher about the manager carrying a gun, but why the bit about being a Green Beret?

A fellow CHL holder should have known better! Unbelievable![/quote]
I am thinking the costco store mgr. was saying that Erick Scott was the one that was the Green Beret and carrying a weapon. That could have amped up the EB scale a little bit to get the cops there faster. A person being a green beret and brandishing a weapon is terrorising the store.

[WildBill]

You have to take the time to listen to the whole thing.

Around 6 minutes into the first tape, I heard the dispatcher say that the [Costco] Manager was a Green Beret and had permission to carry a 413 [firearm]. I can see telling the dispatcher about the manager carrying a gun, but why the bit about being a Green Beret?

A fellow CHL holder should have known better! Unbelievable! I am thinking the costco store mgr. was saying that Erick Scott was the one that was the Green Beret and carrying a weapon. That could have amped up the EB scale a little bit to get the cops there faster. A person being a green beret and brandishing a weapon is terrorising the store.

Listen to the tape posted by KFP. At 5:54 minutes, it clearly states the the manager told Kirk Scott to leave because 413s are not allowed. At 6:04 minutes, the dispatcher says that the manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413 [handgun]. He is throwing merchandise around and acting fidgety.

[Hoi Polloi]

At 5:54 minutes, it clearly states the the manager told Kirk Scott to leave because 413s are not allowed. At 6:04 minutes, the dispatcher says that the manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413 [handgun].

Why had the manager already come up to him and told him to leave at least ten minutes before and he wasn't gone yet? Stupid, fatal decision.

This reminds me of the hypothetical situation discussed a while back on another thread. You're eating at a restaurant and rudely wipe your mouth with your forearm, thus accidentally revealing your weapon. A manager sees it and asks you to leave. What do you do? Do you stop to pay first and risk them saying you didn't leave promptly? Do you leave and risk them saying you didn't pay and committed theft of service? In a grocery store setting, that isn't an issue because you haven't consumed anything. You can just walk right out, which is what Erik should have done.

[WildBill]

At 5:54 minutes, it clearly states the the manager told Kirk Scott to leave because 413s are not allowed. At 6:04 minutes, the dispatcher says that the manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413 [handgun].

Why had the manager already come up to him and told him to leave at least ten minutes before and he wasn't gone yet? Stupid, fatal decision.

This reminds me of the hypothetical situation discussed a while back on another thread. You're eating at a restaurant and rudely wipe your mouth with your forearm, thus accidentally revealing your weapon. A manager sees it and asks you to leave. What do you do? Do you stop to pay first and risk them saying you didn't leave promptly? Do you leave and risk them saying you didn't pay and committed theft of service? In a grocery store setting, that isn't an issue because you haven't consumed anything. You can just walk right out, which is what Erik should have done.

That was one of the points of the restaurant post. Why did Erik Scott stay and purchase the merchandise rather than leave right away? Of course, I can't answer that question.

P.S. I have gotten two emails about candle light vigils for Kirk Scott, one at the Summerlin Costco in Las Vegas and the other in Lancaster, CA.

[baldeagle]

I had trouble making heads or tails of those recordings. Thanks for posting them. I would love to see the written version of those tapes. I don't know what all the codes mean, but it sounded to me like some clown that works at Costco was way over exagerating the behavior of Eric. I suppose there are no videos of his eractic behavior? No videos of him pulling a gun on the cops? Who are we kidding here. The crooked LV cops are going to get away with killing this guy in cold blood. Sad part is, if he were black, the whole darned country would be screaming for justice. Kill a white guy in cold blood... no problemo! Makes me sick!

Here's a link to a transcript of the radio traffic.

There's one error that I found in the transcript. It reads "The manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413." but the dispatcher actually said "he told the manager he's a green beret and is allowed to carry a 413."

[WildBill]

There's one error that I found in the transcript. It reads "The manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413." but the dispatcher actually said "he told the manager he's a green beret and is allowed to carry a 413."

I think that the transcript is correct. Unless there is a glitch in the tape, that is what I heard on at 6:03 minutes on the tape.

[baldeagle]

There's one error that I found in the transcript. It reads "The manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413." but the dispatcher actually said "he told the manager he's a green beret and is allowed to carry a 413."

I think that the transcript is correct. Unless there is a glitch in the tape, that is what I heard on at 6:03 minutes on the tape.

Listen to it closely. The first word is cut off, but I'm pretty sure that's what the dispatcher said. I've listened to it over and over again, because the transcript doesn't make any sense.

[WildBill]

There's one error that I found in the transcript. It reads "The manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413." but the dispatcher actually said "he told the manager he's a green beret and is allowed to carry a 413."

I think that the transcript is correct. Unless there is a glitch in the tape, that is what I heard on at 6:03 minutes on the tape.

Listen to it closely. The first word is cut off, but I'm pretty sure that's what the dispatcher said. I've listened to it over and over again, because the transcript doesn't make any sense.

It does sound like the first word is cut off. I haven't read anywhere in Erik Scott's bio that we was a Green Beret.