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Re: Missed 51% sign

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roberts wrote:That would be a good law to make it illegal for children to enter a 51% premises. Many other states that prohibit carrying in bars also prohibit children in bars for similar reasons.
That probably would not fly in Texas. A common 51% venue where families go is your good old-fashioned Texas dancehall. I know it's a dying institution, but they still exist. I know, because I'm a part-time musician who plays at such venues.

It is not uncommon for Mom & Dad to bring the kids to the Saturday night dance. A lot of people would definitely be put out by such a law. Contrary to popular belief, not every 51% establishment in Texas has a mosh pit. ;-)
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Re: Missed 51% sign

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pedalman wrote:
roberts wrote:That would be a good law to make it illegal for children to enter a 51% premises. Many other states that prohibit carrying in bars also prohibit children in bars for similar reasons.
That probably would not fly in Texas. A common 51% venue where families go is your good old-fashioned Texas dancehall. I know it's a dying institution, but they still exist. I know, because I'm a part-time musician who plays at such venues.

It is not uncommon for Mom & Dad to bring the kids to the Saturday night dance. A lot of people would definitely be put out by such a law. Contrary to popular belief, not every 51% establishment in Texas has a mosh pit. ;-)
Thank you for another example of why the 51% rule for CHL should have been repealed completely (rather than merely adding the signage requirement) and helping to expose the stupidity and prejudice of the lobbyists and legislators who support violating a basic human right in often arbitrary locations.
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Re: Missed 51% sign

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What I really want people to take away from my error is this: ALWAYS look for signs. I was looking as I went in, but was expecting a 30.06, not a 51% posted so low to the ground. Keep your eyes open and stay legal. :tiphat:
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Re: Missed 51% sign

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TrueFlog wrote:It's actually not uncommon for these types of places to be posted 51%. The rationale is that the bar area may be considered a separate business, so it's not far-fetched to think that the bar may be a 51% establishment. Since alcohol must be consumed on the premises it was sold, these venues typically arrange for the entire entertainment center to be considered part of the bar's premises. The upside is that this allows patrons to take their beer back to the bowling lane rather than having to drink it at the counter. The downside is that the entire center becomes off-limits to CHL's. This sort of thing has been a topic of discussion in other threads, and there may be others who can shed more light on it.

The OP makes a good point though. It's up to the owner to make the sign conspicuous, and it's on us to keep our eyes open. Even if you "know" it's not a 51%'er, you still have to watch out for 30.06's at any location.
Not sure how you could count the "entire premises" as the bar and then yet choose to ignore revenue from the "entire premises" when calculating the 51%. Seems like this wouldn't fly if it got down to it.
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