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I do not understand why people refer to their Ar platform rifles as their "battle rifles". First of all if an individual is not enlisted or an LEO and in an actual conflict then the rifle is not a battle rifle. It is simply a defensive rifle or a hunting rifle or a range rifle. The rifle gets the name associated with that best defines its use/uses. Sorry gents and ladies I had to rant a little bit it just has been on my nerves. That is all. CARRY ON

Can I still consider my Garand, Enfield, or Springfield 1903 battle rifles?

What prompted this? I haven't seen that term used very much if at all.

cmgee67 wrote:I do not understand why people refer to their Ar platform rifles as their "battle rifles". First of all if an individual is not enlisted or an LEO and in an actual conflict then the rifle is not a battle rifle. It is simply a defensive rifle or a hunting rifle or a range rifle. The rifle gets the name associated with that best defines its use/uses. Sorry gents and ladies I had to rant a little bit it just has been on my nerves. That is all. CARRY ON

Any gun fight that a person may engage in is a battle. Only the Military engage on a field defined as a battle field.

mojo84 wrote:What prompted this? I haven't seen that term used very much if at all.

Ditto. The only reference to "battle rifle" I've seen on this Forum in 2017 was in a 7.62 NATO over 5.56 mention.

For all intents and purposes, I believe the accepted term for any AR-15 is "modern sporting rifle." Or maybe "modern sporting pistol" for my small one.

And FYI, if you want pick apart the term "battle rifle," I would include only the military, not law enforcement. LE has become more militarized over time--arguably either a good or bad thing, depending on where you stand--but even the DEA or FBI HRT don't actually go into "battle."

It's a term I have seen all over other forums and YouTube with the tacticool ninjas. I wasn't jumping on anybody body here. And yes old military rifles can still be called that lol. And mordern sporting rifle that's a good one!

Why does it "get on your nerves" what somebody else chooses to call their gun? What if I call mine "whoopeekipperredherring"? You gonna have a tiff?

I just call mine my "AR." Sometimes I call my magazines "clips," too, but boy, watch the Language Police come out of the woodwork when I do.

Skiprr wrote: And FYI, if you want pick apart the term "battle rifle," I would include only the military, not law enforcement. LE has become more militarized over time--arguably either a good or bad thing, depending on where you stand--but even the DEA or FBI HRT don't actually go into "battle."

I also considered this, but then I thought that just because of who owns it doesn't change what it is. The M4 Sherman tanks and other models that often sit outside various posts or VFW's are still tanks or battle tanks or whatever. They may not be functional as such, but they are still tanks.

cmgee67 wrote:And modern sporting rifle that's a good one!

Goes back in common use to 2009. Here's a Google search.

Are my model 70's battle rifles? If so is it only the 06 and not the 243 or 270?

jason812 wrote:Are my model 70's battle rifles? If so is it only the 06 and not the 243 or 270?

Now we are getting into "Sniper" rifles. Most of the ARs shown here would be considered "assault" rifles if they had a bayonet attachment.

My rifle is called the "Pirate AR" it has a spikes jolly roger lower.

C-dub wrote:

Skiprr wrote: And FYI, if you want pick apart the term "battle rifle," I would include only the military, not law enforcement. LE has become more militarized over time--arguably either a good or bad thing, depending on where you stand--but even the DEA or FBI HRT don't actually go into "battle."

I also considered this, but then I thought that just because of who owns it doesn't change what it is. The M4 Sherman tanks and other models that often sit outside various posts or VFW's are still tanks or battle tanks or whatever. They may not be functional as such, but they are still tanks.

But even during the brief one-year period (61-62) when a rifle referred to as the "AR-15" found its way into unofficial use in Viet Nam, it was a full-auto select-fire. In November 1963, with the first military order from Colt, it became the "M16."

The Eugene Stoner military design was never semi-automatic only. Semi-autos never went into battle. So I guess it would be like calling a heavy vehicle designed and built to run on treads but with no armament a "battle tank." It's a tank, but its design has never seen battle.

WTR wrote:Most of the ARs shown here would be considered "assault" rifles if they had a bayonet attachment.

Seriously?

I call mine Sue. No reason just figured if it made Johnny Cash tougher it would work for my rifle.