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Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:38 pm
by texasrimfirenut
Guys, standing in front of a hospital. Not for sure so leaving CCW in truck.

I was thinking but being a newb I wanted to be sure.

There is no 30.06 sign nor anyone handing out 30.06 notice cards.

So in this case it is legal right?

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:17 pm
by LucasMcCain
Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:00 pm
by rotor
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
Why is that? I never heard of there being a differential penalty. Yesterday I went into a hospital I frequent, they had a single old 30.06 sign technically no longer valid and no 30.07. I didn't tell them anything about their signs.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:00 pm
by oohrah
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
How so, it's just Class C misdemeanor?

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:19 pm
by TeachMan2016
rotor wrote:
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
Why is that? I never heard of there being a differential penalty. Yesterday I went into a hospital I frequent, they had a single old 30.06 sign technically no longer valid and no 30.07. I didn't tell them anything about their signs.

Well from my understanding the 30.06 sign is still valid, but now you have to post both signs. If someone who likes to open carry goes into a place with a 30.07 sign, then simply they would conceal and it would still be okay. If both sign are present then they would have to leave their weapon in the car holster.

As far as hospitals, every time i've gone in one I've seen both signs.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:32 pm
by texasrimfirenut
OK thank you. Yes I did see where hospital is a class A offense but in this case the entrance has no signs on it much less a 30.06.

Just wanted to confirm since I am a newb.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:53 pm
by vjallen75
TeachMan2016 wrote: Well from my understanding the 30.06 sign is still valid, but now you have to post both signs. If someone who likes to open carry goes into a place with a 30.07 sign, then simply they would conceal and it would still be okay. If both sign are present then they would have to leave their weapon in the car holster.

As far as hospitals, every time i've gone in one I've seen both signs.
I do believe that it's not "off limits" to carrying. What you are saying is correct, if they don't want guns they have to have both signs posted. There's a hospital my son was just in recently, only stated that the unlicensed carry of a firearm would result in fine/jail time. So if I wanted I could walk in with a gun as long as I'm licensed to carry.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:34 pm
by rotor
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
Can you quote the source for this?

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:53 pm
by casp625
rotor wrote:
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
Can you quote the source for this?
Look at 46.035, it's a class A misdemeanor.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:58 pm
by Solaris
oohrah wrote:
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
How so, it's just Class C misdemeanor?
Get caught at a amusement park, hospital, etc., that has posted, and you violated 30.06 AND 46.035.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:20 pm
by rotor
Solaris wrote:
oohrah wrote:
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
How so, it's just Class C misdemeanor?
Get caught at a amusement park, hospital, etc., that has posted, and you violated 30.06 AND 46.035.
Looks like that is correct. Class A misdemeanor. Learned something new.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:15 am
by txpilot
In addition, if the hospital is part of a university (higher education), then carry is off-limits even without a sign. Also a VA hospital is off-limits as federal property. Be very careful to insure you know what you're getting into.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:27 pm
by oohrah
rotor wrote:
Solaris wrote:
oohrah wrote:
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
How so, it's just Class C misdemeanor?
Get caught at a amusement park, hospital, etc., that has posted, and you violated 30.06 AND 46.035.
Looks like that is correct. Class A misdemeanor. Learned something new.
I did too.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:25 pm
by mayor
you know, with all the rules that I have to remember, it's almost not worth carrying at all, almost.

Re: Quick check - hospital

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:27 pm
by NotRPB
oohrah wrote:
rotor wrote:
Solaris wrote:
oohrah wrote:
LucasMcCain wrote:Hospitals in Texas DO have to post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry. Just look for the signs extra carefully, because getting caught carrying in a posted hospital carries a much greater penalty than on other posted private property.
How so, it's just Class C misdemeanor?
Get caught at a amusement park, hospital, etc., that has posted, and you violated 30.06 AND 46.035.
Looks like that is correct. Class A misdemeanor. Learned something new.
I did too.

I do know two hospitals which have no signs, and one which has an outdated 30.06 sign.
Since I have to go to 30.06 30.07 posted hospitals almost weekly, that's why I got the Kel Tec Sub 2000 folding rifle I conceal carry in hospitals.. It does not violate 30.06 NOR 46.035 and uses the same mags of the handgun I cannot legally carry concealed inside. Yes, anyone could carry a concealed rifle, licensed or not, but the weight is less comfortable or more trouble. So, I can ignore said signs and not have to look for them at such places when they force me to leave my concealed handgun outside and conceal carry my rifle inside instead. Everywhere else I carry my handguns. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.46.htm