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buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial#?
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:33 pm
by buddyhotrod
Hello
Need some advice
A gentleman is offering a nice small conceal gun for my glock 21c,
How can I be sure his gun is legal?
Is there a way to check the serial on his gun?
My gun still has the original sales receipt with my name on it.so no worries there for him.
Could the police department run the serial # for me?
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:29 am
by carlson1
There is no way for you to check a serial number so there is no way to know if it is stolen or not.
I do not know of a LE agency that would "just run the serial number" for you.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:10 am
by mrvmax
I know Florida has a system where numbers can be checked online (which does no good unless the gun was stolen in Florida). As an FFL I really wish the govt would provide a way to check. Out of all their anti-gun efforts you would think they would at least allow access to stolen firearm serial numbers.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:18 am
by Scott B.
You could do a 'facilitated' transfer through an FFL. That wouldn't run the serial number, but at least there would be a 4473 on file indicating that you acquired that firearm on X date.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:29 pm
by Texsquatch
I can understand wanting to be cautious, but this sounds a lot like what anti's would argue against private sales.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:32 pm
by Hindenburg
Maybe he should buy from a FFL. Anybody with access to a laser printer can print a convincing sales receipt.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:40 pm
by cheezit
If your worried dont make a deal. Thats always the best rule to follow.
If the person has the original box, most stolen guns dont come with them.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:23 pm
by Weg
I've always worried about this. I will not carry a gun I have not bought through a FFL, even if it was a used gun, at least I have a copy of the transaction to prove I did not KNOWINGLY by a stolen gun. I have some pretty nice handguns I bought face to face that I would would not carry, just because of the slight chance I could put myself in a situation of trying to explain to a LEO why the gun he just ran came up stolen. It is definitely a quandary.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:10 pm
by chuck j
Pretty simple , just exchange name and address info with a driver license without the DL number . Each one gives a receipt to the other , old style works for me . Proves you bought it in good faith .
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:47 am
by gljjt
chuck j wrote:Pretty simple , just exchange name and address info with a driver license without the DL number . Each one gives a receipt to the other , old style works for me . Proves you bought it in good faith .
This.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:36 pm
by cb1000rider
Texsquatch wrote:I can understand wanting to be cautious, but this sounds a lot like what anti's would argue against private sales.
Maybe, but why don't we have this database? It'd be trivial.... You and I would use it.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:45 pm
by saltydog452
Its a dubious practice, but, if you call your local Sheriff Dept and tell them that you have an opportunity to buy a firearm from a person that has a questionable past and at a ridiculous price, would the Sheriff be kind enough to run the serial numbe? If it has been reported as stolen, be prepared to surrender the gun.
salty
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:39 pm
by bayouhazard
cb1000rider wrote:Texsquatch wrote:I can understand wanting to be cautious, but this sounds a lot like what anti's would argue against private sales.
Maybe, but why don't we have this database? It'd be trivial.... You and I would use it.
Trivial for the antis to randomly add guns that aren't stolen.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:45 pm
by RoyGBiv
chuck j wrote:Pretty simple , just exchange name and address info with a driver license without the DL number . Each one gives a receipt to the other , old style works for me . Proves you bought it in good faith .
This is what I would do.
If both parties are amenable, a brief bill of sale/trade can be signed.
I'm less worried about having the gun forfeited because it really was stolen than I am about getting mixed up in the crime that happened before I acquired it. A bill of sale goes a long way to fix the latter.
Re: buying private gun from someone, how to check the serial
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:19 pm
by gljjt
RoyGBiv wrote:chuck j wrote:Pretty simple , just exchange name and address info with a driver license without the DL number . Each one gives a receipt to the other , old style works for me . Proves you bought it in good faith .
This is what I would do.
If both parties are amenable, a brief bill of sale/trade can be signed.
I'm less worried about having the gun forfeited because it really was stolen than I am about getting mixed up in the crime that happened before I acquired it. A bill of sale goes a long way to fix the latter.
I agree. The odds of anything bad happening involving me and the gun are slim. But the bill of sale protects me from being involved with something I wasn't involved in. That's my concern. The slim chance of ever losing the gun doesn't concern me at all.