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Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:15 am
by Otto
Yesterday I was walking back to my truck at 5:00 pm and saw a man laying face up in the parking lot, his face was covered in blood. There were a couple of people with him but no paramedics. I assumed he had some medical condition that caused him to fall and cut his head....he wasn't moving.
This morning it was announced that he had died due from a gun shot wound to the head, the result of an apparent accidental discharge. There may have been another person involved in the accident.
Needless to say the gun show has been cancelled for today (Sunday). Condolences go out to his family.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:33 pm
by gljjt
Wow, very sad. We had left about a half hour before that.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:36 pm
by Jim Beaux
Appears to have been a ND.

Gun shows seem to cause people to forget the axiom that all guns are loaded. I dont go to them unless I really need something.
Cedar Park police say the male passenger in a vehicle outside of the Austin Gun Show was holding a loaded handgun when the weapon went off, striking the driver, who was also a man. The shooting happened at about 5:30 p.m.
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Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:03 pm
by Keith B
Makes me wonder if the gun show was posted 30.06 and the individual was disarming to enter the show and had a ND.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:27 pm
by spongeworthy
I don't allow anyone in my immediate area to handle weapons if I'm not 100% sure they are free of bad habits (like pointing a gun in someone else's direction) and know proper gun safety. I avoid those situations at all costs.

Bad habits are hard to break, I guess. I've seen too many firearms salesmen twirling guns on their fingers and other unsafe practices while showing weapons to potential customers.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:00 pm
by MoJo
I haven't darkened the doors of a gun show in years, too many id10t patrons. I have found I can buy 99% of the stuff I want online and the other 1% is available at the LGS or I can do without. I rarely buy guns from an LGS the prices at Bud's and others are so much better.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:08 pm
by carlson1
Very sorry to hear this news.

Prayers for the families involved.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:20 pm
by hillfighter
Prayers for the individuals and their families.

Travis County Commissioners are probably very happy they refused to offer Saxet Gun Show a new lease.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:47 pm
by Right2Carry
I was thinking the individual was either arming after being in the gun show or disarming to go in.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:56 pm
by Scott Farkus
Keith B wrote:Makes me wonder if the gun show was posted 30.06 and the individual was disarming to enter the show and had a ND.
They've been posted in the past, so I assume this one was also. I didn't go yesterday, but was planning to today.

Since it's said to have happened around 5:30, I would assume the two individuals were on their way home and the guy was either reloading or reholstering his weapon in the car. I suppose he could have purchased a new gun at the show and was loading that, and wasn't familiar with all the controls or something, but that's a stretch and no excuse regardless.

Any legal liability on the part of the person responsible for posting the 30.06? Can it be argued that but for the unenforceable and arguably illegal posting of a government facility, the individual wouldn't have been exposed to the additional hazard of reloading?

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:10 pm
by Otto
It actually happened at 5:00 or a couple of minutes earlier. The show closed at 5pm.
Cedar Park PD released the name and age of the victim, he was 59 and from Jarrell.
According to the police his son-in-law had just reloaded a gun and it discharged within the vehicle.
The release doesn't say if they were CHL holders. Sad story.....

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:16 pm
by Ameer
Scott Farkus wrote:Any legal liability on the part of the person responsible for posting the 30.06? Can it be argued that but for the unenforceable and arguably illegal posting of a government facility, the individual wouldn't have been exposed to the additional hazard of reloading?
You can argue anything but common sense says he could have put the loaded gun into a car safe without fiddling with it.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:30 am
by TexasGal
Sad. This should not have happened. Condolences to the familes.

Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:54 am
by philip964
My anti's on facebook are constantly bringing these sorts of things up. They don't so much bring up the robber using a gun as I usually point out the gun was illegal. They bring up a legal gun, killing someone by accident. The new push for "gun safety laws" are also directed towards the same point.

Guns are too dangerous for honest citizens to have according to my friends. They kill children, your friends and loved ones and they kill you when you decide to end your life or clean your gun.

Everyday it seems like there is some idiot having a ND and killing someone. Supposedly 100 children have died from ND's since Sandy Hook.

This is going to be the thing that gets our guns taken away, for our own safety.

On the other hand cars are still a lot worse.

Five dead in a F150 from a wrong way driver on the Sam Houston Tollway at only 11 pm.

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Re: Bad day at Cedar Park gun show.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:11 am
by HankB
Keith B wrote:Makes me wonder if the gun show was posted 30.06 and the individual was disarming to enter the show and had a ND.
I was there in the morning - I did NOT see the compliant PC30.06 sign I was looking for, but rather a sign out front with verbiage asserting that entry entailed a contractual agreement not to carry a loaded concealed handgun . . . a couple of guys at the entry WERE checking bags and purses.

Today's newspaper confirmed that the shooter was loading his gun when it discharged, fatally wounding his father-in-law. Details are still sketchy, but unless there was some genuine mechanical malfunction, it sounds like a Rule 2 / Rule 3 violation.
Otto wrote: . . . This morning it was announced that he had died due from a gun shot wound to the head, the result of an apparent accidental discharge.
Very sad to accidentally kill anyone, much less a family member . . . but unless there was a ricochet, it takes extreme carelessness to shoot someone by accident in the head.

I was at the Saxet show some years back when it was still on South Lamar when an exhibitor - a retired sheriff's deputy - had an ND inside. Nobody hurt, but he was OUT of there within 10 minutes, and one of the show employees told me he was banned for life from the show, not just as an exhibitor, but as a customer as well.

I hate careless gun handling - in fact, even when I was younger, I was very picky about who I'd go to the range with.