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Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:16 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
I was cleaning my PM9 this afternoon and noticed something I don't recall seeing before. I shot the gun at the range last week and it ran fine. I put maybe fifty rounds through it. No malfunctions. Here are a couple pics of the receiver. Notice the nick in the lower rail. Could someone with a PM9 take a look at their receivers and see how it compares to mine. It also looks like there is a slight outward bulge in the front part of the receiver frame. Maybe not. Any thoughts?
I can put picks up of other parts of gun if needed but there are no signs of cracks in frame. My largest concern is for that small chip in the metal rail.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:42 pm
by Excaliber
03Lightningrocks wrote:I was cleaning my PM9 this afternoon and noticed something I don't recall seeing before. I shot the gun at the range last week and it ran fine. I put maybe fifty rounds through it. No malfunctions. Here are a couple pics of the receiver. Notice the nick in the lower rail. Could someone with a PM9 take a look at their receivers and see how it compares to mine. It also looks like there is a slight outward bulge in the front part of the receiver frame. Maybe not. Any thoughts?
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I can put picks up of other parts of gun if needed but there are no signs of cracks in frame. My largest concern is for that small chip in the metal rail.
I had a PM40. The polymer rail guides got somewhat chewed up after a few hundred rounds. I cleaned up the burrs with an Xacto knife and had no further problems. The only metal in the rail guide is at the rear of the frame. I can't make out exactly what that looks like from the resolution of the pictures. However, the "bulge" in the front of the frame doesn't look good to me at all.
I'd suggest giving Kahr a call and emailing them the pictures. They're good with their customer service and they're the best positioned to give you answers you can rely on.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:43 pm
by Keith B
Mine looks identical. Same notches in bottom, notch on rail and bowed sides.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:52 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Keith B wrote:Mine looks identical. Same notches in bottom, notch on rail and bowed sides.
Excellent. I was having a real hard time remembering.
Thank you very much.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:58 pm
by NorthTexas
Keith B wrote:Mine looks identical. Same notches in bottom, notch on rail and bowed sides.
My brand new, not even fired yet CM9 also has that notch in the rail and the bowed sides. I wondered about those bowed sides when I stripped and cleaned it, that must just be how they're made.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:25 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
NorthTexas wrote:Keith B wrote:Mine looks identical. Same notches in bottom, notch on rail and bowed sides.
My brand new, not even fired yet CM9 also has that notch in the rail and the bowed sides. I wondered about those bowed sides when I stripped and cleaned it, that must just be how they're made.
I have had mine for at least six years, so it is not a new model like yours. That notch must serve some purpose. I sure would be interested to know what that purpose is.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:06 pm
by 4copas
03Lightningrocks wrote:NorthTexas wrote:Keith B wrote:Mine looks identical. Same notches in bottom, notch on rail and bowed sides.
My brand new, not even fired yet CM9 also has that notch in the rail and the bowed sides. I wondered about those bowed sides when I stripped and cleaned it, that must just be how they're made.
I have had mine for at least six years, so it is not a new model like yours. That notch must serve some purpose. I sure would be interested to know what that purpose is.
Here you go, from Kahr FAQ page,
Q. There is a chip in the metal guide rail of my polymer pistol. Is this normal?
A. This is a witness mark for the polymer frame manufacturer and is present by design.
My PM45 looks exactly like your picture.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:27 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Well, what do you know about that! There it was on the Kahr site all along. Thanks, good to know. I should have gone there first. I even have that forum on an old bookmark I had forgotten about.
You just gave me an idea for a web site that could be really big. Wouldn't it be handy if there were a web site where one could enter a question or a few words and possible answers from all over the Internet would be instantly found? OMG! I think I may be on to something. I could call it... Google. It would be an instant hit! What do y'all think? Good or bad idea?
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:33 pm
by WildBill
03Lightningrocks wrote:Well, what do you know about that! There it was on the Kahr site all along. Thanks, good to know. I should have gone there first. I even have that forum on an old bookmark I had forgotten about.
You just gave me an idea for a web site that could be really big. Wouldn't it be handy if there were a web site where one could enter a question or a few words and possible answers from all over the Internet would be instantly found? OMG! I think I may be on to something. I could call it... Google. It would be an instant hit! What do y'all think? Good or bad idea?
How about an on-line encyclopedia where you could search for different topics and articles for just about any subject you wanted .... nah!
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:01 pm
by mojo84
03Lightningrocks wrote:Well, what do you know about that! There it was on the Kahr site all along. Thanks, good to know. I should have gone there first. I even have that forum on an old bookmark I had forgotten about.
You just gave me an idea for a web site that could be really big. Wouldn't it be handy if there were a web site where one could enter a question or a few words and possible answers from all over the Internet would be instantly found? OMG! I think I may be on to something. I could call it... Google. It would be an instant hit! What do y'all think? Good or bad idea?
It would never work. Don't waste your time. Now go come up with a good idea.
How about a cell phone that you can surf the internet on and do an unimaginable number of things on it that can help one be more productive?
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:31 pm
by WildBill
mojo84 wrote:03Lightningrocks wrote:Well, what do you know about that! There it was on the Kahr site all along. Thanks, good to know. I should have gone there first. I even have that forum on an old bookmark I had forgotten about.
You just gave me an idea for a web site that could be really big. Wouldn't it be handy if there were a web site where one could enter a question or a few words and possible answers from all over the Internet would be instantly found? OMG! I think I may be on to something. I could call it... Google. It would be an instant hit! What do y'all think? Good or bad idea?
It would never work. Don't waste your time. Now go come up with a good idea.
How about a cell phone that you can surf the internet on and do an unimaginable number of things on it that can help one be more productive?
This probably the stupidest idea I have every heard, but how about having an on-line auction website where people can post items for sale to the highest bidder.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:47 pm
by 4copas
03Lightningrocks wrote:Well, what do you know about that! There it was on the Kahr site all along. Thanks, good to know. I should have gone there first. I even have that forum on an old bookmark I had forgotten about.
You just gave me an idea for a web site that could be really big. Wouldn't it be handy if there were a web site where one could enter a question or a few words and possible answers from all over the Internet would be instantly found? OMG! I think I may be on to something. I could call it... Google. It would be an instant hit! What do y'all think? Good or bad idea?
When your done with that google thingy, I'll go in 50/50 with you on something. We can call it You Tube.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:52 pm
by Murindo
My PM9 is well used and looks much like the pics you've shown.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:51 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Murindo wrote:My PM9 is well used and looks much like the pics you've shown.
I have no idea how many rounds have been through mine. It has to be at least 2500 rounds. I put five hundred rounds through it the first two weeks I bought it. It runs like a Glock. I can feed anything through it. I am afraid to do the spring maintenance replacement Kahr recommends. It may stop working right.
Re: Kahr PM9 question/possible problem
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:24 am
by Keith B
03Lightningrocks wrote:Murindo wrote:My PM9 is well used and looks much like the pics you've shown.
I have no idea how many rounds have been through mine. It has to be at least 2500 rounds. I put five hundred rounds through it the first two weeks I bought it. It runs like a Glock. I can feed anything through it. I am afraid to do the spring maintenance replacement Kahr recommends. It may stop working right.
I found mine does NOT like the Tula steel cased stuff. It won't feed properly. Eats brass or aluminum cased ammo of any kind all day long.