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Interesting raodtrip coming up...
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:16 am
by stevie_d_64
My Dad is running up to Colorado for my nieces "little britches" rodeo national finals...
He just emailed me about what the carry laws are up that way...
Well being the "good" son...I forwarded him the links to the State pages for NM and CO at PDO, and told him to check in here from tim eto time to get the knowledge base up to speed...
Doing a little "trip" research myself...Just be glad we live in a State which recognizes and respect us mor than some others out there...
Even though NM is coming along, and we should have a reciprocity agreement with them sometime soon, CO is already there with us, but their list of "no-no's" is really over the top...
But all in all, it should be an uneventful trip...All you can really do is encourage someone to get as up to speed on the laws as they can, and hope for a enjoyable, "criminally" uneventful trip...
I did tell him to print out those pages, keep them and any other applicable information tucked nicely away for his trip...
Not everyone we encounter is as informed as we can be concerning this issue...
Later,
Steve
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:16 pm
by stevie_d_64
My spelling is horrible today, sorry...
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:26 pm
by tehlump
I just reviewed the PDO's information comparing CO and TX. It seems to me that CO has fewer restrictions than TX.
Colorado:
(1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except as specifically limited in this section. a permit does not authorize the permittee to use a handgun in a manner that would violate a provision of state law. a local government does not have authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance or resolution that would conflict with any provision of this part 2.
(b) A peace officer may temporarily disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. the peace officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the permittee from the scene.
(2) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. page 18-senate bill 03-024
(3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:
(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked. (b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty.
(c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.
(4) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which:
(a) Security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building;
(b) Security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and (c) Security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.
(5) nothing in this part 2 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity.
(6) the provisions of this section apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209.
Texas:
* A place of business that derives 51% or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on premises consumption
* On premises of a correctional facility
* On the physical premises of a school, an educational institution, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or an educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private,
* On the premises where a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event of interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event
* On the premises of a polling place on the day of an election or while early voting is in progress.
* racetrack; secured area of an airport
* In any government court or offices utilized by the court, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the court.
* *on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.
* *On the premises of a Hospital licensed under the Health and Safety Code
* *On the premises of a nursing home licensed under the Health and Safety Code
* *Amusement parks. Amusement Parks means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
* Public or private premises conspicuously posted with this sign do
* Items above marked * Do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
30.06(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
In order to provide notice that entry on property by a license holder with a concealed handgun is forbidden, Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(A) requires that a written communication contain the following Language: 30.06 Sign.
Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(B) further states that a sign must meet the following requirements:
i. includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
ii. appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
iii. is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
What am I missing? CO specifically makes schools off limits...TX includes schools, bars, race tracks, amusement parks etc...
Maybe I'm missing something obvious here...