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Whats better???

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:53 am
by stevie_d_64
Or would it be more of a personal preference...

I have been exploring the full frame 1911 clone market in .45 for a short while now...

And being of the old school train of thought, and knowing technology is producing fine products with both "trigger" conditions...

I am looking to get a good concensus regarding the trigger options on these types of firearms...So my terminology may be elementary, but I will try to be as discriptive as I can...

What I am leaning towards (at this time) is a "pivoting/dwell" type trigger used on Para Ordinance products...It just seems to me that they shoot more smoothly than the other "trigger" condition where it is a "sliding/bar" type trigger...Like on your Kimbers and other 1911 clone manufacturers...

I guess I am not too concerned about trigger pull loads or other functioning parameters on these firearms as yet...I think I have a good handle on those issues...

Its just this one last nagging thing I want to get ironed out before I start the final process...

Maybe I need to check myself in for treatment of something... :lol:

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:14 pm
by txinvestigator
Para's actually have guns with each type of action.

The LDA's (light double action) are the ones to which you refer. They are carried hammer down, and pressing the trigger cocks and releases the hammer. They are about 7 pounds, but very smooth. There is quite a bit of trigger movement before the hammer falls.

A 1911 has a single action trigger, where the weapon is only fired from the cocked position. It has very little travel, or takeup, before the hammer falls, and has usually about a 4 pound trigger pull.

Different actions, both fine weapons.

For me, it is the 1911. However, it is a matter of preference. Shoot both, and see which one fits the bill.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:33 pm
by stevie_d_64
Thanks for the clarification...

Since I have not ever carried a full size .45, that info you gave me, helps me understand those ".45'er" comments about "condition one" and the like...Makes sense now...

I've actually been eyeing my Dad's "Michigan Arms" .45, that has the S/A trigger...He had some fantastic work done on that thing from what I recall that really tweeked the operation of that firearm...He got the trigger job, and had some work done to tighten up the slide when it cycled...

So far that would be the best .45 I had ever fired before...

I'm sure Kimber has improved on that system, and that its common to have that kind of performance right out of the box, for the most part...

Its still kinda a toss up between one of those Kimber's and a Para I suppose...Either way, It may come down to a $$$ decision...

Its still fun to investigate, discuss and figure this stuff out anyway...

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:44 pm
by txinvestigator
Is there a range in your area where you can rent them both?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:04 pm
by stevie_d_64
txinvestigator wrote:Is there a range in your area where you can rent them both?
Not really...There's SSC in Friendswood (about 10 minutes from the house), its an indoor range that rents some pretty ragged out stuff...But I doubt it has both examples to begin with...

I might have to drive a while up to the westside or NW side of Houston/Harris County to go try both out at the same time I suppose...

I might get lucky this weekend at PSC, maybe some of those fine folks will have an example of both...If'in they let me run through a box each...I'd be mighty appreciative...I've got an AR that needs some exercise...hint hint, :wink:

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:22 pm
by gigag04
I can bring my gold cup which has a very nice slide trigger.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:13 pm
by stevie_d_64
gigag04 wrote:I can bring my gold cup which has a very nice slide trigger.
Roger that...

"Para"..."Para"??? Do I hear a "Para"??? :lol: