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Is this a good deal?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:54 pm
by Big Ben
I found a brand new Smith and Wesson M&P Ar 15 chambered for 5.56. It comes with quad rails, a promag forward grip, a streamlight TRL-1, an Eotech reflex sight flip up MBUS, and 1000 55gr fmj .223 rounds for $2000.00. This seems to me like a good deal but would like some feedback before I commit to the purchase.

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:28 pm
by eureka40
Get it!!

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:02 pm
by Beiruty
Maybe worth $1700 max.

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:05 pm
by Big Ben
Beiruty wrote:Maybe worth $1700 max.
Can you elaborate alittle?

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:13 pm
by Beiruty
MP 15 $800 NIB.
Light $150 or less
Grip $75
EoTech $400
MUBS $125
1000 rds (assume brass) $300
Total $1700-$1850

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:21 pm
by hirundo82
Beiruty wrote:MP 15 $800 NIB.
Light $150 or less
Grip $75
EoTech $400
MUBS $125
1000 rds (assume brass) $300
Total $1700-$1850
I'd agree; maybe even less. The Magpul backup sights (I'm assuming that's what they are since he says MBUS) are $50 or less new. A Promag VFG is $10.

The quad rail is the only question mark, but unless it is KAC it's not worth the $300 difference.

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:38 pm
by Big Ben
They are the s&w rails which from what I can see are made by Troy.

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:06 am
by WEC
Eotechs can range in price from $250 to $500+ so some more information would be helpful.

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:50 am
by RECIT
Is the rail a free float or drop in rail system? Big price and quality difference in my opinion. What type of sights? Agreed if they are the magpul MBUS then they are not a high cost item. The rails can cost between $50-300 depending on length/features and brand.

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:45 pm
by gigag04
Not a good deal. Buy separate and get what you want.

1000 rounds of "ammo" and an "Eotech" could mean lots of things. XM193 and a 511 or Hornady Tap and an a new XPS?

I would shop elsewhere. Also couldn't buy from someone who outfits a real weapon with airsoft level accessories (the grip).

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:44 pm
by RECIT
hirundo82 wrote:
Beiruty wrote:MP 15 $800 NIB.
Light $150 or less
Grip $75
EoTech $400
MUBS $125
1000 rds (assume brass) $300
Total $1700-$1850
I'd agree; maybe even less. The Magpul backup sights (I'm assuming that's what they are since he says MBUS) are $50 or less new. A Promag VFG is $10.

The quad rail is the only question mark, but unless it is KAC it's not worth the $300 difference.
Also to note I have a KAC rail system I traded for a while back. Is it sturdy YES, is it as sturdy as a free float rail not quite, is it worth $300 not no but heck no. Knights Armament is not gold I'm here to say

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:43 pm
by CompVest
I got a M&P AR similar set up for $1200. $2000 seems a bit high.

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:26 am
by Big Ben
Thansks for the imput everyone it was vary helpful.

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:42 am
by Vecco
Not a good deal becuse it might not be set up like you want. The S&W M&P comes with Troy filp up battle sights so that not an added cost ( mine are not even on the gun). What model M&P, what model EO tech.. did you want a EO tech or something else. Did you want that light or something else. Same with the fore end. I belive the only M&P with quad railes ( Troy) is the M&P15T// new its around 1,300, they can go up and down in price but most AR prices are down right now/.

NIB M&P15T 1,300
Front Sight: Troy Adjustable, Folding Battle Sight
Rear Sight: Troy Adjustable, Folding Battle Sight
Forend: Troy 4-Sided, 10" Free-Float Modular Rail Forend (MRF)

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =217918925" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NIB Eo tech 512,,,,,,,399.00
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So thats 1.7k for gun and optic.. Lights are to personal to get into.

Hope this helps and let us know either way :clapping:

Re: Is this a good deal?

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:52 pm
by Big Ben
The etch is the 512 and the rifle is the 15x which does have the Troy rails even though everything is s&w branded.